Incidentally, you are one of those who, when they hear the word federalism, do something in their pants. You get so scared that you will finally have to take the fate of your own area in your own hands instead of being spoonfed by the central government, that you don't even believe your community will survive under federalism. A pity really, for the federalists' proposals foresee help for such areas.
Finally, you did not quote anything. All you did was make some allegations about what the Kabaka is supposed to have written. What this is, you didn't say. I therefore find it preposterous to be asked to come up 'with info to the contrary' when there is no information to be contradicted. As has been your habit of late, when it turned out that you don't know what you are talking about, you thought up some justification about not wanting to spoonfeed us ! The fact is that there is no such written information. What a joker !
Kasangwawo
From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:09:12 +0100 (BST)
It is amazing that so called developed and therefore sophisticated
people,the like of you and your purpoted cohorts still expect to be
spoon fed with knowledge.
Are you not by inference just proving that you and your ilk are not only mundane but also anachronistic?
Development can not be defined by parameters that are not robust and
that cannot be verifiable in other settings.
What Buganda had was only administrative structures that showed the strata into which the rulers could relate with the ordinary folks in their areas.
This same arrangement existed in areas other than Buganda but had a different nomenclature which unfortunately for you with your Ntu syntax
innebriation believes since you do not understand it then it could as well not exist.
If you look at the parameters that are internationally used as a gauge of development,can you tell me what the Infant Mortality rate in Buganda is?,the Maternal mortality rate?,the life expectancy in Buganda ,the amount of disposal income available to these so called developed people
and area you keep jabbering about just as a few examples?.
If you realise that today unlike in the 1950s and 1960s Baganda are the highest consumers of Mwogo and all that they used to refer to as not food,do you still not feel ashamed to utter these nonsenses about being developed and sophisticated?.
If you also recall that the establishment at the center of your purported
development went on to urge their young girls and women to go sell their
hardware in Europe and wherever inorder to bring income to them,does that pass for being developed and sophisticated?
Any society that has no respect for women in their midst and uses them
as entertainers aka Ebimansulo,needs to rethink definitions of what it calls development and sophistication.
Have you ever heard of these litany of societal miscues anywhere from those areas you believe in your mind are not developed?.
You are putting yourselves in coccoons of a past that has become a mirage and thus accepting to be used as political condoms and that is why today Mu7 is re-sterilizing you for further use in his quest for more time in Office since he knows very well how gullible you people can be when it comes to thinking you can re-invent a wheel.To live is to Change.
From my opening statement,I am not going to spoon feed you on where
Mutebbi said what I quoted because as developed and sophisticated people you need to exercise your intellect and take advantage of the super information highway and get the neccessary information to refute
what you think is unpalatable to you.
That in a nutshell will make you indeed sophisticated for they say,the taste of the pudding is in the Eating!.
Thus to prove me wrong come up with info to the contrary rather than being passive receipients of knowledge unless your sophistication is only founded on being good Xeroxers of other peoples' ways and views.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
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jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Despite your denials, a keen observer cannot fail to notice the envy
embedded in your
writings.
It seems you are turning this into a habit - I mean, the constant failure to
answer questions
put to you. Can you please at last answer Mw. Ssemakula's question about
what you have to show by way of progress in your area / community for the
last umpteen years. And while you are
at it, could you also answer my and Mw. Ssemakula's questions about your
allegations
concerning what Kabaka Mutebi is supposed to have written.
Failing this, I would earnestly advise you to abstain from talking about things you have not even an inkling about.
Kasangwawo
>From: Owor Kipenji
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
>Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:04:24 +0100 (BST)
>
>This message is actaully meant for the dustbin and I will
>next time do exactly that.
>In London or wherever you are yakking from,how is that helping you
>develop Buganda?
>You should henceforth stop being obtuse and do more meaningful
>things.
>Envy is something very foreign to me and hence your presumptions
>are very misplaced.
>Start thinking beyond the chronic mediocrity that appears to have engulfed
>you and your ilk.
>Ciao!.
>Kipenji.
>____________________________________________________________________----------------
>
>jonah kasangwawo wrote:
>Kipenji,
>
>your envy of Buganda is there for all to see and it knows no bounds. It has
>taken you
>so far that you even criticize traditions and mottos whose origin you have
>no clue about.
>If you spent half of the energy which you waste criticizing Buganda on
>developing your region,
>maybe there would be something to show for it. Oh, that reminds me. Why
>don't you
>answer Mw. Ssemakula's question:
>
>- what do you have to show by way of progress in your area / community for
>the last
>umpteen years ?
>
>Kasangwawo
>
> >From: Owor Kipenji
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 02:19:09 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Ssenyange,I would rather you keep your puerile talks about you and your
> >support for Mu7 to yourself.
> >In the same vein would one have to say that as long as you and Buganda
>want
> >to keep Mu7,then you can go ahead and get the Federo for Buganda that Mu7
> >is peddling before you?.
> >Wise people learn from other peoples' mistakes but Fools always want
> >to learn through their own experiences which oftentimes turns to be very
> >expensive.
> >You think Mu7's killing fields that you support in the North will go on
>for
> >ever?.What about if he achieves what you want and still feels he needs to
> >kill and by that time only the Baganda like you are there for him to
> >kill,what will you say?.Will you stop him from killing you and your
> >paranoid ilk?
> >The Motto that might have been started and adopted for obscure reasons
> >breeds more true today than then.
> >Lastly I want you to take it from me,Kipenji,that I have nothing that I
> >have ever envied about Buganda let alone Baganda so your conclusions
>about
> >my opinions on this fora are very much misplaced.
> >Lets' wait and see.
> >Kipenji.
> >__________________________________________________________________
> >
> >ssenya nyange wrote:
> >
> >
> >Mukooza,
> >
> >So long as UPC supporters continue their hatemonger against
> >Buganda, Mu7 will rule Uganda until he's deposed by the use of arms or
> >killed by bullets. Thats why he doesnt want to stop the war in the north
>so
> >that UPC can increase its sentiments against Buganda- devide more, rule
>for
> >ever. The result will be as you see on Ugandanet. Iam anti Museveni but
> >when
> >the Adhola, Mulindwa, Akanga, Kipenji etc continue the envious sentiments
> >against Buganda, I would rather give Mu7 a go ahead until a more credible
> >replacement ( free of UPC, NRM & Ganda sentiments ) is found. I have
>argued
> >UPC to initiate a Truth and Reconciliation commission similar to Suth
> >African but they refused, saying that they have unfinished business to
> >settle with Buganda. Well, Baganda say "Ekigy'omanyi........ kinyaga
> >bitono"
> >"Sekawuka kaali kakulumye......." " okwerinda...ssi butiitiizi"
> >
> >Ssenyange
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >From: Rehema Mukooza
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo
> > >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Members:
> > >
> > >I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk to Mengo". Ooh, please!
> > >How many times has he sworn to talk to Mengo?? The fact is that he has
> >not
> > >done so, and he says the opposite. Take a look into his recent Tororo
> > >speech when he blasted Mengo. Museveni talks his shit about talking to
> > >Mengo and the Kabaka when he is in Buganda. Basically to please folks!
> > >
> > >Zakoomu M.
> > >
> >
> >===========================================================================
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