Re: [Ugnet] Muteesa II Life & Death in Brief

[Edward Mulindwa]

That is the same thing I have been saying for ages in these forum but my fellow Kasangwaawo decide to feed people with "Good" lies. It is very sad how we decide to just believe what we want to be good and in process forget the truth.   Em Toronto    The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"             Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: musamize To: ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Muteesa II Life & Death in Brief Mutesa II From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutesa_II) Mutesa II, the first President of Uganda.   Edward Mutesa II (November 19, 1924 - November 21, 1969) was king of the Buganda region and President of Uganda from 1963 to 1966. His full name was Sir Edward Frederick William David Walugembe Mutebi Luwangula Mutesa but was often nicknamed King Freddie by his supporters. As king he was also leader of the Ganda tribe which dominated Buganda. Mutesa became king in 1939 upon the death of his father, King Daudi Cwa II. At the time Buganda was part of the British protectorate of Uganda. He continued his father's practices of reforming the largely self-governing kingdom into a constitutional monarchy< /A> system of government. When discussions began among British officials of making Uganda into an independent country, King Freddie lobbied them in an attempt to secure independence for Buganda as a country sovereign from Uganda. The efforts were both ineffective and unpopular, however, and he was briefly deposed and exiled. Mutesa returned to Uganda and his throne in 1955. In 1962 Uganda became independent from Britain with Milton Obote as Prime Minister and Walter Fleming Coutts as Governor General. In 1963 Obote abolished Uganda's status as a Commonwealth realm and replaced the post of Governor General with a figurehead Presidency. A largely rigged election saw Mutesa get elected as Uganda's first President, a result Obote had deliberately orchestrated in order to appease the Ganda tribe. Mutesa was not content to serve as a mere figurehead, however, and continued to feud with Obote over the future of Buganda. In 1966 Obote suspended the Ugandan constitution and proclaimed himself as the new president, exiling Mutesa to Britain. President Obote proceeded to abolish all of Uganda's kingdoms, including Buganda. [edit] Death Mutesa died of alcohol poisoning in his London flat in 1969. Attributed to suicide by the British police, the death has been viewed as a possible assassination by those claiming that Mutesa may have been forcibly administered large amounts of vodka by agents of the Obote regime. Mutesa was interviewed in his flat only a few hours before his death by the British journalist John Simpson, who found that he was sober and in good spirits. Simpson reported this to the police the following day on hearing of Mutesa's death, although this line of enquiry was not pursued. Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kasangwawo "I've already said that it was an assassination by agents of the Obote regime" That is the crap sold in Uganda, you and I have been abroad for a while and we state matters we can prove. So I am not my grand mother who still believe that Muteesa is still alive and well in UK. Every body who dies in UK has a cause of death, and I state that Muteesa's cause of death is listed , officially listed as alcohol poisoning. Kindly tell us what is officially listed as the death of this drunkard? Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC > Man, are you illiterate or plain dumb ? I've already said that it was an > assassination by agents of the Obote regime, through poisoning. Is it > clear to you now ? > > Regarding Lule, I was only trying to point out to you that it would be > better if you first ask yourself in which university Obote did his > doctorate before you start questioning Lule's credentials who was an > academic. But that also seems to be beyond you. > > I'm done with your hopeless allegations on this issue. > >>From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net >>To: >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC >>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:11:55 -0400 >> >>Kasangwawo >> >>What did Kabaka Muteesa die from? This is your chance to make it public. >>Mutesa was a King of Buganda, and a Uganda president at a certain point, >>surely the cause of his death must be stated and publicly. The floor is >>yours. >> >>On Lule I will not waste my time for we have asked you many times where he >>did his professorship and you have not answered, that means you do not >>know and you do not care to research.. >> >>Em >>Toronto >> >>The Mulindwas Communication Group >>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" >> Groupe de communication Mulindwas >>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:41 AM >>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Butur o knows Luweero killers, says UPC >> >> >>>Mulindwa, >>> >>>I'm not going to do your research for you, but I'll tell you this. >>>Circumstances of Muteesa II's death clearly point to an assassination by >>>agents of the Obote regime. A British journalist, John Simpson, who >>>interviewed King Freddie in his flat just a few hours before his death, >>>stated that he was sober and in good spirits. This was confirmed by >>>people who were around him in his last hours. Simpson actually reported >>>this to the police upon hearing of the King's death on the following day. >>>Incomprehensibly, this line of inquiry was not pursued by the British >>>police who claimed that his death was suicide. You go figure ! >>> >>>But stop telling lies that you have seen the postmortem record because >>>you haven't. >>> >>>As for Prof Lule, well if we believe that Obote is a Dr why should we not >>>believe Lule ? Still, your claims of Lule being an alcoholic are total >>>rubbish, because, as I told you before, the man didn't drink alcohol. >>> >>>Kasangwawo >>> >>>>From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net >>>>To: >>>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC >>>>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:00:09 -0400 >>>> >>>>Kasangwawo >>>> >>>>Now that you are here what did Mutesa die from? >>>> >>>>I challenge any one to look for the report on this man if it does not >>>>state alcohol poisoning I will personally pay 5000 dollars Canadian. >>>>Kasangwawo you are spreading the same roamer that we all must believe >>>>in, and Ugandans being in a zoo buy that crap. Yes the crap that Yusuf >>>>K Lule was a professor. Prove me wrong Kasangwawo, tell us what Muteesa >>>>died from, for you know what? He did not die in Mulago but London the >>>>records are available, and I have challenged you on this before and you >>>>just shut up. Tell us today. >>>> >>>>Em >>>>Toronto >>>>The Mulindwas Communication Group >>>>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" >>>> Groupe de communication Mulindwas >>>>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: >>>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:51 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC >>>> >>>> >>>>>There he goes again ! Look, Mulindwa, we've been through this before. >>>>>You have neither seen Muteesa's post-mortem report nor do you have any >>>>>inkling what he died from. Otherwise you wouldn't come out with this >>>>>nonsense. You are just making wild allegations, similar to the ones you >>>>>made about the late Prof. Lule being a drunkard, when the man was a >>>>>teetotaller. >>>>> >>>>>>From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net >>>>>>To: , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC >>>>>>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:45:13 -0400 >>>>>> >>>>>>Ever since Obote left power, why haven't these questions been asked? >>>>>>Did you really wait for his coming back to Uganda to ask these things? >>>>>>And why has The Movement taken 20 years without looking into this >>>>>>issue? I saw The Paul Muwanga circus what did it help Uganda as a >>>>>>society? May be The Movement is the one to have every thing to hide? >>>>>> >>>>>>But you see we were told that Obote killed the people in Luwero and we >>>>>>accepted it, as we were told that Muteesa was poisoned by a Muganda >>>>>>girl who was sent to London by Obote, until when I read Mutesa's >>>>>>postmortem report and knew the man died of alcohol poisoning because >>>>>>he was a plain drunkard. And no Ugandan ever decided to ask in UK for >>>>>>a report on his death because it is some thing we must just believe. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uganda is truly a ZOO indeed >>>>>> >>>>>>Em >>>>>>Toronto >>>>>> >>>>>>The Mulindwas Communication Group >>>>>>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" >>>>>> Groupe de communication Mulindwas >>>>>>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>To: >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, Ap ril 10, 2005 2:14 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Mr. Onegi, >>>>>>Since the facts are there, and Dr. Obote is that intelligent and with >>>>>>the >>>>>>ability to convince, why can't he just get back to Uganda and convince >>>>>>the >>>>>>courts of law and Ugandans at large, that it was President Museveni >>>>>>and not him >>>>>>who was responsible for all the deaths. Why is he denying Ugandans >>>>>>these facts? >>>>>>Anyway for your information Mr. Onegi, I'm one of those who do not >>>>>>know who the >>>>>>killer is, contrary to your assertion below. I stand to benefit, like >>>>>>so many >>>>>>other Ugandans from the facts as will be given by Dr. Obote when he >>>>>>gets back >>>>>>to Uganda. >>>>>> >>>>>>And by the way, no amount of Intimidation by way of telling me that I >>>>>>belong to >>>>>>the bush is going to change fact that I do not know who the killer is. >>>>>>I will, >>>>>>like many others, continue asking. For it is a fact that people were >>>>>>killed in >>>>>>Luwero and somebody is responsible. It is that person or persons that >>>>>>some of >>>>>>us want to know. The kind of intimidation you are trying to employ >>>>>>here used >>>>>>to come in handy in silencing people in 1980s but I don't think it is >>>>>>effective >>>>>>today. >>>>>> >>>>>>Nice day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Even you know who the killer is but will not admit it. Museveni is >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>one responsible for all those death in Luwero. Propaganda to the >>>>>>>contrary simply defeats itself because it was Museveni who started an >>>>>>>unpopular war and trying to connect it to Buganda popular wishes and >>>>>>>mistaken hatred for Obote( hatred that Obote is very smart >>>>>>>intelligent >>>>>>>and convincing speaker) NRA would commit atrocities at night and in >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>morning turn up to commiserate with the hapless citizens. >>>>>>>That is briefly what has been going on. >>>>>>>Now that Obote's plan to come back back has become certain, Museveni >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>his supporters are exteremely worried of losing and semblance of >>>>>>>legality in office. They feel like the houseboy who took over the >>>>>>>master's bed room would feel on hearing of the master's return. That >>>>>>>is >>>>>>>your problem. I guess you already want to go back to the bush, isn't >>>>>>>that so? That is where your type of people feel comfortable in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Onegi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>>Since, according to UPC, Obote and his government are not >>>>>>>responsible >>>>>>>for the >>>>>>>atrocities in Luwero and other parts of the country during his >>>>>>>regime, >>>>>>>why >>>>>>>doesn't he come back and prove this before a court of law. His coming >>>>>>>back may >>>>>>>be an opportunity for him to tell all Ugandans, other than just the >>>>>>>UPC >>>>>>>members >>>>>>>who already seem to know, who exactly was responsible for the deaths >>>>>>>in >>>>>>>Luwero >>>>>>>and elsewhere in the country. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Buturo knows Luweero killers, says UPC >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > THE Uganda People's Congress (UPC) has said information state >>>>>>>minister >>>>>>> > Nsaba Buturo, who was a Luweero district commissioner, knows the >>>>>>>people >>>>>>> > who massacred residents, reports Hillary Kiirya. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Speaking on phone, UPC's defacto leader, Hajji Badru Wegulo, >>>>>>>yesterday >>>>>>> > said, "I do not think Buturo believes in what he is saying other >>>>>>>than >>>>>>> > protecting the buttered side of the bread. He knows the peop le who >>>>>>>threw >>>>>>> > the grenades and butchered people in Luweero and not Dr. Milton > >>>>>>>Obote >>>>>>>as >>>>>>> > he said. Obote is not a killer. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > "That was a very unfortunate statement though we expected it from >>>>>>>the >>>>>>> > government. We know they have sinister plans for the party >>>>>>>president. >>>>>>> > They thought his return was a simple thing but after knowing the >>>>>>> > public's opinion, they got scared and used this as the only way of >>>>>>> > stopping him from coming back," Wegulo said. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > He was reacting to Buturo's warning on Luweero massacres in which >>>>>>>he >>>>>>> > said exiled former president Obote should answer for the >>>>>>>atrocities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Wegulo said they were studying the situation before they come out >>>>>>>openly >>>>>>> > on Obote's return. >>>>>>> > "This is a man whose father and mother were murdered by the >>>>>>>government. >>>>>>> > So when the government says such things about him, we have to be >>>>>>>very >>>>>>> > careful," Wegulo said. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Published on: Saturday, 9th April, 2005 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>\\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a >>>>>>>second >>>>>>>rate >>>>>>>version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Njoki Paul >>>>>>>University of Pretoria >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>\\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second >>>>>>rate >>>>>>version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\" >>>>>> >>>>>>Njoki Paul >>>>>>University of Pretoria Yahoo! 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