OJ

On the little information I have, it was prudent for Maama Miria to take that 
position at the time, and I have totally no regrets about it, if she did not 
take that position you would probably have no UPC party today in Uganda. So get 
more information on what was happening in Kampala at a time then comment. On 
another note, isn't it interesting that you are now questioning Obama' steps? 
This is what I have argued on always, let us get more information about 
politicians then we decide whether to oppose or not support but not base our 
support on what he has stated. On record I made a stand on Obama based on the 
people that were running his campaign, yet many Ugandans thought that this 
campaign was being ran by one individual, Obama. And it is so sad that some of 
us expected Hilary to stand next time, but when you have been a secretary of 
state of Obama, she has as well reached her cross bar, the Democrats need to go 
back to the drawing board.

Some of us wonder about the change Africans have been singing as they drink 
Malwa out of their pots in jubilation.


EM
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Oryema Johnson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; m e 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [Str8talk-2011] Re: {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN 
NEXT YEAR



  This is a good thing, but she had no reason to head UPC in the first place. 
This is one of the permanent damages UPC has caused/brought to itself. The 
people who came to the recent conference with a set idea to have her resign 
immediately had a better and safer idea than her lingering around UPC corridor 
until late next year, doing what? Making sure that she  pockets the money 
mulindwa  and mama Onyango are trying to raise too?

  In any case, I have concluded that running around with expired leaders is a 
black thing..Look at the line up of Obama's cabinet and advisers...Clinton from 
1992 to the present as if nobody else from the Clinton Club has brains to be 
Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of State etc...and this is a man who promised 
change! Change the Museveni way, blow up hospital and not replace them after 
you get into power because you have robbed enough money to send your own for 
treatment overseas.

  OJ


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  Folks:
  This is good for UPC and good for Uganda.
  MK








  ------- Original Message Follows ------- 
  From: Nyar Nyar'Onyango 
  To: Mulindwa Edward
  Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oryema 
Johnson, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: [Str8talk-2011] Re: {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN NEXT 
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  Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:16:58 +0100

  Hej Mulindwa,

  This is great idea from you, and I hopes there are so many other willing 
supporters out there.  The earlier we start the better, so that we are better 
prepared to meet the Kisanjas who use tax-payers money.

  My A/C number is 42 - 2 - 411.000.444.333

  The BIC number UPC201112NYAR


  Regards,


  Nyar'Onyango



  NOTE :  Should any of you find any difficulties while sending your 
contribution, just get in touch with me through my e-mail.



  2008/11/24 Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

    Ugandans

    The whistle is off where are the Ssemuwemba's to line up for the leadership 
of this party? Some of us have itching fingers to fund raise for the 
candidates, for that is the most important issue as we speak..


    EM
    Toronto


     The Mulindwas Communication Group
    "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
    "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Robert Ssenkindu 
      To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
      Cc: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Nyar Nyar'Onyango ; Oryema 
Johnson 
      Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:30 PM
      Subject: {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN NEXT YEAR


      At about 72, but still looks like a 50 yr old? greeeaaat!!!!!

      " I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean Jaqueas 
Rousseau
      " Apolitician thinks on the next election - a statesman of the next 
generation"  James Freeman Clarke
      " The State calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" 
- Max Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)"
      "The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to 
pronouce the word 'no' -Winston Churchill.
      "The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus 
"Annals"(c.116.A.D)"
      SR. Sveritanien.





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      Subject: {UAH} MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN NEXT YEAR
      Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:50:21 -0500


      Miria Obote steps down next year
      Alfred Nyongesa Wandera

      Namboole
      Uganda Peoples Congress will hold its third delegates conference late 
next year at which they will elect a new party president to replace Ms Miria 
Kalule Obote who has been at the helm since 2005.
      This was revealed yesterday by UPC deputy Secretary General, Mr Chris 
Opoka during the party's second delegates' conference at Namboole National 
Stadium which deliberated over the amendment of the party constitution.
      "Mama Miria is happy that she has given the party her time to serve it 
and can now leave. We shall hold a delegates conference next year to elect a 
person to replace her so that the new person can have time to popularise him or 
herself in preparation for the 2011 general elections," Mr Opoka told Sunday 
Monitor in an interview.   

      The conference attracted over 500 delegates with majority coming from 
Northern Uganda. They rooted for reduction of the term of service of party 
president from seven to five years so as to be in tandem with the national 
Constitution.
      "The 1969 party constitution was designed during turbulent times and gave 
much power to the party president," said Prof. Patrick Rubaihayo, a senior UPC 
member.
      "We hope to make a transparent, democratic and pro-people constitution to 
reinstate the party's glory," Prof. Rubaihayo said.
      Under the old party constitution, the president essentially enjoyed 
sweeping powers to appoint and dismiss members of the Central Executive 
Committee. A member was not allowed to hold a rally without the permission of 
the party president.
      Mr Opoka admitted that at the conference, there was a faction of 
delegates who had come to ensure that the party president was ousted 
immediately. 
      "That clique of people fears to be challenged in next year's delegates' 
conference because they know there will be tight competition to replace Mama 
Miria. But until then, Mama Miria shall remain our party president," Mr Opoka 
said.
      Yesterday, Mama Miria acknowledged that her age would not allow her to 
continue in the 2011 general elections even if the constitution was not 
amended. 
      "It is true I am now about 72 and by July 2011, I will be 75. That means 
I can contest for presidency because elections will be held in March that very 
year. I will be remaining with just a few months to be barred by the national 
constitution which does not allow a person at 75 and above to contest for 
presidency," Mama Miria said.
      "But it is always good to let others serve. It is now time we should let 
new blood lead us at the helm of the party. That is what democracy means,' Mama 
Miria added. 
      UPC is not the only political party whose top leadership has been hit by 
the age factor. Democratic Party President John Ssebana Kizito has also 
declared he will relinquish power to Gulu District Chairman Norbert Mao.
      The issue of membership of UPC at the delegates' conference generated 
some debate. A delegate from Bunya West, Mr Mohamed Dhakaba Kirunda said 
whereas the CEC wanted membership to be by formal registration, the others 
wanted the membership to be left open to anyone who is willing to join the 
party.
      "The delegates felt that by forcing members to register is tying them to 
the party, which is not democratic," Mr Kirunda said.
      However, UPC special envoy to United Kingdom, Mr Joseph Ochieno said it 
is always good to have members registered because it shows members' commitment. 
But he agreed registration should not always restrict membership. 

       The Mulindwas Communication Group
      "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                  Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
      "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"





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