EM
The OJ's are irrelevant in the greater scheme of things..period.. forget
them !! .....Indeed what happened, if I might ask, to his much hipped
Ugandans At heart party...??? I suppose it simply vanished in obscurity!! or
is it thin air!!!
MK
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OJ
>
> On the little information I have, it was prudent for Maama Miria to take
> that position at the time, and I have totally no regrets about it, if she
> did not take that position you would probably have no UPC party today in
> Uganda. So get more information on what was happening in Kampala at a time
> then comment. On another note, isn't it interesting that you are now
> questioning Obama' steps? This is what I have argued on always, let us get
> more information about politicians then we decide whether to oppose or not
> support but not base our support on what he has stated. On record I made a
> stand on Obama based on the people that were running his campaign, yet many
> Ugandans thought that this campaign was being ran by one individual, Obama.
> And it is so sad that some of us expected Hilary to stand next time, but
> when you have been a secretary of state of Obama, she has as well reached
> her cross bar, the Democrats need to go back to the drawing board.
>
> Some of us wonder about the change Africans have been singing as they drink
> Malwa out of their pots in jubilation.
>
>
> EM
> Toronto
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Oryema Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; m e<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2008 8:54 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [Str8talk-2011] Re: {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP
> DOWN NEXT YEAR
>
>
> This is a good thing, but she had no reason to head UPC in the first place.
> This is one of the permanent damages UPC has caused/brought to itself. The
> people who came to the recent conference with a set idea to have her resign
> immediately had a better and safer idea than her lingering around UPC
> corridor until late next year, doing what? Making sure that she pockets the
> money mulindwa and mama Onyango are trying to raise too?
>
> In any case, I have concluded that running around with expired leaders is a
> black thing..Look at the line up of Obama's cabinet and advisers...Clinton
> from 1992 to the present as if nobody else from the Clinton Club has brains
> to be Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of State etc...and this is a man who
> promised change! Change the Museveni way, blow up hospital and not replace
> them after you get into power because you have robbed enough money to send
> your own for treatment overseas.
>
> OJ
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:51:24 -0800
> Subject: [Str8talk-2011] Re: {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN NEXT
> YEAR
>
> Folks:
> This is good for UPC and good for Uganda.
> MK
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------- Original Message Follows ------- *From: *Nyar Nyar'Onyango
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To: *Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Cc: *<[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[email protected]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]>,
> Oryema Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Subject: *[Str8talk-2011] Re: {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN
> NEXT YEAR
> *Date: *Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:16:58 +0100
>
> Hej Mulindwa,
>
> This is great idea from you, and I hopes there are so many other willing
> supporters out there. The earlier we start the better, so that we are
> better prepared to meet the Kisanjas who use tax-payers money.
>
> My A/C number is 42 - 2 - 411.000.444.333
>
> The BIC number UPC201112NYAR
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Nyar'Onyango
>
>
>
> NOTE : Should any of you find any difficulties while sending your
> contribution, just get in touch with me through my e-mail.
>
>
> 2008/11/24 Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Ugandans
>
> The whistle is off where are the Ssemuwemba's to line up for the leadership
> of this party? Some of us have itching fingers to fund raise for the
> candidates, for that is the most important issue as we speak..
>
>
> EM
> Toronto
>
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Robert Ssenkindu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Cc:* [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Nyar Nyar'Onyango<[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]>; Oryema
> Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:30 PM
> *Subject:* {UAH} Re: MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN NEXT YEAR
>
> At about 72, but still looks like a 50 yr old? greeeaaat!!!!!
>
> *"** I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean Jaqueas
> Rousseau
> " Apolitician thinks on the next election - a statesman of the next
> generation" James Freeman Clarke
> " The State calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" -
> Max Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)"
> "The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to
> pronouce the word 'no' -Winston Churchill.
> "The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus
> "Annals"(c.116.A.D)"
> SR. Sveritanien.
> *
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: {UAH} MAAMA MIRIA OBOTE TO STEP DOWN NEXT YEAR
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:50:21 -0500
>
> Miria Obote steps down next year
> Alfred Nyongesa Wandera
> Namboole
> Uganda Peoples Congress will hold its third delegates conference late next
> year at which they will elect a new party president to replace Ms Miria
> Kalule Obote who has been at the helm since 2005.
> This was revealed yesterday by UPC deputy Secretary General, Mr Chris Opoka
> during the party's second delegates' conference at Namboole National Stadium
> which deliberated over the amendment of the party constitution.
> "Mama Miria is happy that she has given the party her time to serve it and
> can now leave. We shall hold a delegates conference next year to elect a
> person to replace her so that the new person can have time to popularise him
> or herself in preparation for the 2011 general elections," Mr Opoka told
> Sunday Monitor in an interview. [image: obote.jpg] **
>
> The conference attracted over 500 delegates with majority coming from
> Northern Uganda. They rooted for reduction of the term of service of party
> president from seven to five years so as to be in tandem with the national
> Constitution.
> "The 1969 party constitution was designed during turbulent times and gave
> much power to the party president," said Prof. Patrick Rubaihayo, a senior
> UPC member.
> "We hope to make a transparent, democratic and pro-people constitution to
> reinstate the party's glory," Prof. Rubaihayo said.
> Under the old party constitution, the president essentially enjoyed
> sweeping powers to appoint and dismiss members of the Central Executive
> Committee. A member was not allowed to hold a rally without the permission
> of the party president.
> Mr Opoka admitted that at the conference, there was a faction of delegates
> who had come to ensure that the party president was ousted immediately.
> "That clique of people fears to be challenged in next year's delegates'
> conference because they know there will be tight competition to replace Mama
> Miria. But until then, Mama Miria shall remain our party president," Mr
> Opoka said.
> Yesterday, Mama Miria acknowledged that her age would not allow her to
> continue in the 2011 general elections even if the constitution was not
> amended.
> "It is true I am now about 72 and by July 2011, I will be 75. That means I
> can contest for presidency because elections will be held in March that very
> year. I will be remaining with just a few months to be barred by the
> national constitution which does not allow a person at 75 and above to
> contest for presidency," Mama Miria said.
> "But it is always good to let others serve. It is now time we should let
> new blood lead us at the helm of the party. That is what democracy means,'
> Mama Miria added.
> UPC is not the only political party whose top leadership has been hit by
> the age factor. Democratic Party President John Ssebana Kizito has also
> declared he will relinquish power to Gulu District Chairman Norbert Mao.
> The issue of membership of UPC at the delegates' conference generated some
> debate. A delegate from Bunya West, Mr Mohamed Dhakaba Kirunda said whereas
> the CEC wanted membership to be by formal registration, the others wanted
> the membership to be left open to anyone who is willing to join the party.
> "The delegates felt that by forcing members to register is tying them to
> the party, which is not democratic," Mr Kirunda said.
> However, UPC special envoy to United Kingdom, Mr Joseph Ochieno said it is
> always good to have members registered because it shows members' commitment.
> But he agreed registration should not always restrict membership.
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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