Got to say though if you have a sustained DDoS you can’t mitigate in over 24 
hours you should probably have bought in to Arbour or similar a while ago. 
Everyone is being very nice around the situation but its really not acceptable 
to have had the downtime. I know my commercial customers wouldn’t accept that. 
I know of networks able to mitigate even large DDoS attacks in an hour. Sounds 
like they didn’t have a plan or if they did it wasn’t tested well.



Graham



On 10/12/2015, 11:19, "Tim Chown" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> On 9 Dec 2015, at 17:44, Keith Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On 12/09/2015 07:37 AM, Pete Stevens wrote:
>>> Either way, it's a gentle push to suggest that if some accurate and 
>>> helpful information could be released to the community / public, it 
>>> might be helpful to do so sooner rather than later to counter 
>>> misinformation that is already out in the public domain.
>> 
>> Indeed, in the absence of detailed public statements, analyzable data
>> would be a good thing. What's baffling me about these attacks is the
>> motivation - it's very much the season for online shopping extortion
>> attacks, and what happened to the root last week suggests there's a lot
>> of DDoS generally going on right now, but its not clear what's to be
>> gained from taking out academic infrastructure. I hope it's not some
>> deadline-shy undergrad using a booter site to avoid their assessments
>> ("the DoS ate my homework"...), but sadly such things are not
>> inconceivable these days.
>
>It seems very likely to me that in cases such as this there are sensitivities 
>around the disclosure of any specifics around the attack, esp. when the attack 
>may still be considered ongoing, mitigations are being deployed, or there is a 
>non-negligible risk of the attack resuming. 
>
>Being at a university, I know that university IT dept contacts have been kept 
>in the loop with periodic updates, which is very welcome.
>
>So it may be that some details are published in due course, but I fully 
>understand why that is not the case yet. The only problem then of course is, 
>as Pete implies, the age old issue of nature abhorring a vacuum, and junk 
>rumours / stories emerging and being published in various press outlets. It’s 
>a tricky balance. 
>
>Tim
>

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