Whoops, sent this direct to Neil only rather than reply-all to the list, Neil, you'll need to resend your reply (which is clearly intended for the list) to the list also, sorry :)
On Thursday, 18 August 2016, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 18 Aug 2016, at 16:52, Mike Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If BT encouraged equipment vendors to test instead of CP's, then perhaps > this would be different. > > What makes you think we don't? > The most recent evidence (June 2016) of this I saw is here, on Page 6: https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/super-fa stfibreaccess/downloads/ProcessGuideforCPEeModemConformanceT estingIssue1.4.pdf - It seems unlikely (though not impossible) that this policy is standalone for products intended exclusively for GEA. Nobody is hurling abuse at you, we're criticising an unnecessarily inefficient system that CPs are expected to abide by, by BTOR, in pursuit of better services for everyone. That you are just about the only face of (part of) BT who both engages on a regular basis (often to defend the procedure or whatever is being criticised, putting you at odds with most everyone else right out the gate) and might have the necessary contacts and input to make helpful change means you get the shitty end of the stick in a thread, but we're not hurling abuse. Simply removing the option for CPs to hide test passes (given everyone benefits whether they know it or not from any effort to approve kit *anyway*, and BTs intent behind the MCT, hiding the approval seems especially daft), and/or insisting (allowing?!) manufacturers do the testing themselves if they want their kit to be eligible for use in the UK (BABT green circle style) will provide the shortest path to the aim of more compliant devices being used/noncompliant firmware being fixed. Absent manufacturers being able to test direct, does anyone seriously think that CPs would take their bat and ball home and stop selling broadband if the list of any off the shelf equipment/firmware that passed MCT was simply made public as part of the process? Phil
