Hi Ben,

This is also something we have been investigating recently. We have found
that CPE support for transition technologies is pretty limited outside of
WRT.

I also have concerns about gaming support. I don’t believe any of the
current generation of consoles support IPv6 for their services. I did a
quick experiment a few weeks ago and found that none of the popular gaming
services on PC (steam, uplay, epic) support v6 only.

VoIP too is another service which concerns me. I think the only way to be
certain about the impact of these technologies is a trial. We are looking
to run one in the next few months.

I would be interested also to hear of any real world deployments and the
support impact that they have.

Regards,
Dave

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 15:44, Ben McKeegan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear UKNOF,
>
> I have been asked to evaluate the feasibility of deploying lw4over6 with
> IPv4 address sharing as an entry level option over an existing and
> growing dual-stacked altnet, primarily for new residential customers.
>
> My google foo is failing me on this one as I am struggling to find any
> reports within the last few years as to how nicely various consumer
> applications and devices play behind a shared IPv4 address, where each
> subscriber is allocated a fixed sub-range of ports.  For example, one
> area I am aware of which can present a problem with CG-NATs is the use
> of games consoles for online multiplayer gaming, however, I am unsure to
> what extent this can now be mitigated by enabling IPv6 on the consoles
> and/or moving all the NAT to the CPE to give the user full control of
> port forwarding (within their restricted range) and to avoid the
> double-NAT.
>
> Before I put in a budget request for a large selection of games
> consoles, online gaming subscriptions and other consumer devices to go
> in my test lab, which will no doubt raise a few questioning eyebrows in
> the finance department :-), I was wondering if anybody on this list had
> any operational experience of running lw4over6 or similar technologies
> such as MAP-E/MAP-T on a residential network, and would be willing to
> share their experiences of what is and isn't likely to work.   What
> proportion of a typical residential user base are likely to be adversely
> affected by IP address sharing?   Can anybody point me to any recent
> studies on this sort of thing?
>
> I also wonder to what extent we might be able to automatically detect
> and mitigate the common problematic use cases, by flagging such
> subscriber accounts as candidates for upgrade to dedicated IPv4 addresses.
>
> Many thanks,
> Ben.
>
> --
> Ben McKeegan
> Netservers Limited
>
>
>
>

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