Jennifer, What an interesting idea, that we compose as we read. I've never thought of it exactly like that, but it makes sense. Funny you should mention teaching a course on this. There was an on line course in the Reading Writing Connection through Learn NC, but I was afraid that it would interfere with my work for the Writing Project which launches in earnest this Tuesday. What I'm interested in learning about is the research that backs up Ellin, and other giants in literacy education whose opinions we cherish. I can't think of a single respected writer of professional texts for teachers who wouldn't agree that there is a connection (or a teacher, for that matter). I'm also interested in learning how others have applied this in their class. Are you as explicit as Katie Wood Ray and her friends in Study Driven? She suggests inquiry as a part of writing, is this something that you employ in your classrooms? I'm dwelling in these ideas, contemplating having my students read Ralph Fletcher's How to Write Your Life Story, because of his repeated suggestions that you should read for ideas to influence your style when writing. I'm thinking of someone else (Aimee Buckner maybe?) who suggested "trying on" another writer's style. Copying their sentence structure but putting in your own details. This implies reading, again. So if we have this strong connection between reading and writing, how can we more closely align our instruction in both realms to add rigor and deeper thinking? Joy/NC/4
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org --- On Sat, 7/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Understand] Reading/writing connection To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 10:00 PM Joy I had to think a while before responding to your post. (Dwell in the ideas, maybe??? LOL) The reading- writing connection is something I have wondered a lot about, too. Why did so many of my first grade kids learn to write before they learned to read? Why were the strongest readers often the best writers? It was, and still is, something of a mystery. A few years back, I was asked to teach a graduate level summer course on the reading/writing connection and I said yes...but I was terrified because I didn't feel I understood the mechanics behind it very well myself. I agreed to teach it because I thought it would help me come to grips with how the reading/writing connection worked. Well...not enough people signed up for the course, so it was canceled. I was really relieved but also a little disappointed and have not really wrestled with this topic since then. Your question challenges me to think about this one more time, this time in light of what I have learned about the deep and surface structure systems from Ellin and our discussions on this listserv. I think you have hit upon something that is important to Ellin's philosophy of literacy. I wonder if the reason she changes the names for the aspects of reading and writing workshop is because of the strong connection between reading and writing. Think of what the term"composing" lends itself to in people's minds. Reading comprehension is really a composition...the meaning we create in our own minds using our background knowledge and the author's words. It becomes a dialogue between you and the author and just as something you write (like this email) becomes a dialogue between the writer (me)and readers (you and others on the list). The only difference between the two is who initiates the "dialogue;" both are attempts to create meaning using language. In thinking about both the deep and surface structure systems, they are all related to language...the use of and the understanding of language. In surface structure--there are the sounds that make up language. You use your phonics to speak, read and to write. You use the lexical system to remember what words look like to read them fluently to understand some one else's message or to recall their spelling to communicate your message. With semantics...we use that system to understand the connotations and denotations of the words authors use...subtle differences in meaning make such a difference in what we understand. And when we write, we choose our words carefully...trying to anticipate what effect they will have in the readers minds in order to communicate what we want to say. As we use our comprehension strategies during reading we build our background knowledge which in turn helps us to write more clearly... Reading reinforces writing and writing reinforces reading because, I am thinking, they are both ways to use language. I used to think that reading was receptive language and writing is expressive, but I think that reading is also expressive because of how much of the meaning is constructed in our own minds. We don't receive understanding by taking in the author's words...meaning is constructed with input from ourselves as the readers. In a fashion, we are writing the text along with the author. The same with writing---when we write we express our ideas we are anticipating how others will react to and understand what we write. We think about how others will be understanding it...receptively and write accordingly. Once again, it is a negotiation of sorts between the writer and the readers. Does this make sense? Just some Fourth of July weekend ponderings. I would love to hear what others think... Jennifer In a message dated 7/3/2008 6:47:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering about the reading/writing connection. Ellin talks about them together in her discussion of the six structure systems. I'd like to explore this further. How does reading support writing, and how does writing support reading? I've seen this, but would like to understand the mechanics better. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) _______________________________________________ Understand mailing list [email protected] http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/listinfo/understand_literacyworkshop.org _______________________________________________ Understand mailing list [email protected] http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/listinfo/understand_literacyworkshop.org
