Oh, yes, Lori, I totally understand.  In fact, I'll just bet the coaches would 
rather be working with us vets dedicated to delving, but the powers that be...  
 However, I would like to say that I think the district would get a lot of bang 
for its buck if it would help us at the higher levels and let us help the 
newbies.  
Just a thought,
Judy




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From: ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Amen, Judy, but this is not always the doing of coaches.  Sometimes it is
> the administrative pushing for mentoring vs. coaching. I see a need for
> both, but some at the admin level see it as synonymous--pushing towards
> working only with the new staff.
> 
> 
> On 9/28/08 8:27 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've saved all of your posts and have reread this one several times.  I've
> > reflected deeply on the sentiment that some of you are trying to move 
> > teachers
> > in a direction they don't want to travel...and I've tried not to let your
> > posts bother me.  But now, LOL, I can't stand it anymore and I'm going to 
> > tell
> > you why they do.
> > 
> > As a teacher who WANTS with all her heart to teach deeply and to the highest
> > of expectations, I am bothered that our coaches think I need no help.  All
> > coaching help goes to the new teachers.  I find this sad for two reasons:
> > first, I want to improve.
> > 
> > Secondly, the help that is going to our new teachers is not deep.  Believe 
> > me,
> > our new teachers are hard-working, but the standard in my district is high 
> > and
> > they're swimming as fast as they can just to survive day-to-day.  We have 2
> > brand new teachers (of 4) at my grade level.  I've put in a lot of time
> > helping them and I believe they're just not ready for deep thinking as they
> > don't know anything about teaching reading.  Perhaps Ellin will say that ALL
> > teachers can start off with comprehension strategies on day #1, but it seems
> > to me these darling new teachers need some foundation in the more tangible
> > aspects (like decoding, fluency, and surface/literal comprehension).  It 
> > seems
> > to me that they just don't have enough understanding of the reading process 
> > to
> > be ready for the really tough stuff.  I hope you'll say I'm wrong and that
> > they can do it all, but I wonder....
> > 
> > Judy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Steve Mabry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> HI all!
> >>  
> >> I am intrigued by the final question for our first reading.
> >>  
> >> ....In what ways can we live our adult lives as intellectually curious
> >> leaders  
> >> for our students and for our colleagues? 
> >>  
> >> I can't tell you how many nights I stayed up thinking - why didn't my
> >> teachers 
> >> get it?  Why don't they want to help their students - to move them beyond 
> >> the
> >> expected curriculum and into differentiation and individualization and
> >> understanding?  Why they didn't have an internal drive and motivation to
> >> replicate what Ellin and Debbie and everyone was writing about and modeling
> >> in 
> >> their books?  I modeled the ideas and goals at faculty meetings and in our
> >> weekly newsletters by both taking pictures of the activities and usage of 
> >> the
> >> strategies in classes and including snapshots and ideas from the books
> >> themselves.  
> >>  
> >> But I could not motivate the teachers who were in the "been there done 
> >> that"
> >> mode.  They made fun of the teachers who were taking leaps.  They got
> >> extremely 
> >> cliquey.  It was just so depressing!  What kept me going was the fact that 
> >> I
> >> knew what I was writing/talking/modeling was right for both the teacher and
> >> the 
> >> students.
> >>  
> >> So....to answer the question - by modeling, blogging, dicsussing, showing 
> >> how
> >> to 
> >> never stop learning...our actions speak louder than words.  The sad thing 
> >> is
> >> that there are so many of us who are isolated islands of application.  The
> >> good 
> >> thing is that there are places like this where the isolated islands can 
> >> find
> >> refuge, mentorship, and relief.
> >>  
> >> But how to be there for our colleagues?  I think they have to be ready 
> >> first.
> >>  
> >> I obviously never figured out the answer to that one!
> >> Lori
> >>  
> >>  
> >>  
> >>  
> >>  
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  
> >>  
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> Lori Jackson
> District Literacy Coach & Mentor
> Todd County School District
> Box 87
> Mission SD  57555
>  
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