No...you are not way off. I do agree with you that you should be getting  
coaching too. I also agree that you would have a LOT to offer these new  people 
as well. Is there any reason why you can't offer your help now? I would  watch 
for any opportunity you have to open that door. If they are making  
comprehension salads, yet don't understand what is behind good comprehension,  
maybe you 
can help! How about a book discussion or lesson study? I learned a TON  last 
year from teachers who had more than ten years less experience than I did  as 
we went through the lesson study process together.
 
 I just think that teaching for depth IS...or maybe I should say  SHOULD BE, 
a basic. Of course, we need them to master things like classroom  management, 
effective lesson planning etc first before we get into any of the  pedagogy of 
teaching reading. If your newbies are not even coming with  classroom 
management, then the coaches ought to spend every spare moment with  them! 
 
Jennifer
 
In a message dated 9/28/2008 1:13:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jennifer, you make a really good point when you say "if only the  newbies are 
getting the coaching then we had better integrate the teaching for  depth 
right away."  With three, we have even fewer newbies than you, but  I think 
you're assuming that they have something to "integrate the teaching  for depth" 
into.  Maybe our new teachers just didn't get the training in  teaching reading 
in college, but they are clearly in unknown territory (as I  was when I first 
started teaching).  So I'm politely asking, don't they  need to know some 
basics?

For vets, I want to back up a bit.  The  2 most dedicated Keenites in my 
school are 2 of the oldest and we figured it  out ourselves (from books and 
conferences) before we had coaches.  Our  first coach worked with everyone, but 
with 
this year's California budget cuts,  our coaches are now sharing schools and 
we see them even less.  I  completely understand admin's priority on new 
teachers, but I'm wondering if  coaches were able to give us some time, perhaps 
we 
could help the newbies.  

I am a reader.  I have always been a reader and I have always  taken teaching 
reading seriously.  I'm worried about teaching newbies to  dive before they 
can swim on the surface, but perhaps I'm being elitist and  don't really 
understand at all.  I do know that it makes my teeth grate  when new teachers 
are 
mixing comprehension salads that are "so cute" and  understand nothing of 
comprehension.  But, again, maybe I'm way off the  mark.

Judy


 



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