> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:44 PM
> To: Jill Ramonsky
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Klingons and their allies - Beyond 17 planes
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>
> Jill Ramonsky scripsit:
>
> > It seems a simple enough case to argue - EITHER the
> 0x110000 character
> > space is amply big enough for everyone, as John Cowan asserts.  
>
> Big enough for everyone, but not for everything.


Aha. Then at least we agree on something. An 0x110000 character space is not big enough for everyTHING.

In that case, I would argue that, in order to provide a big enough character space for everything, IF twenty-one bits is not enough THEN we should use more bits. Users of any script, regardless of whether it's Klingon or anything else, should always be able to get codepoints for their script. Nobody should ever need to "justify" its use to a committee. It should suffice to claim "At least two people use it, so we want codepoints for it". Klingon, at least, does now use space in the PUA, but of course that's a problem for anyone who doesn't agree on the particular choice of mapping.

You could argue that that's what the private use area is for. I would argue that codepoints above 0x10FFFF could be considered as just another private use area ... only somewhat larger. So large, in fact, that you need never see a clash, ever.

Jill


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