Micheal Everson schrieb:

>>>> * Add preemptively LATIN [CAPITAL|LOWERCASE] LETTER * WITH CEDILLA 
>>>> ATTACHED for every Latvian/Livonian character currently in UNicode.
>>
>>> Why? Latvian and Livonian don't use letters with "proper" cedilla attached.
>>
>> Maybe my english wasn't perfect here; of course I think that for writing 
>> Latvian the existing characters shall be used. I meant "for" in the sense of 
>> "foreach" or "for loop" in programming languages.

>I have no idea what that means. You want to add a bunch of new non-decomposed 
>characters with a proper cedilla… why?

>> And yes, I think not only the four character required for marshallese, but 
>> also the other ones (g, k, and r).

>Why?

The first reason is to solve this problem completely and not only to resolve a 
Latvian-Marshallese conflict and leave some other exceptions for later.

The second reason is that the letter g, k, l, m, r with proper cedillas are 
currently not encodable using UNicode (because of the latvian exceptions and 
canonical composition/decomposition), but they should *obviously* be encodable.

>>>> (Don't use terms like MARSHALLESE [CAPITAL|LOWERCASE] LETTER [M|N] -- such 
>>>> entities don't exist from a character encoding point of view.)
>>
>>> Yes they do. Cf. U+0406 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BYELORUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN I. 
>>> The character name exists to distinguish it from other characters and to 
>>> guide the user in the character's use.
>>
>> But that character exists as a base letter with a distinct shape. There is 
>> no distinct base letter marshallese m or n.

>There is no decomposition. There is no base character + diacritic. The whole 
>thing is a "letter" used in Marshallese. (It's just a name.)

Allthough there is the famous Goethe quote "Namen sind Schall und Rauch" I 
think good naming style matters, and I prefer the descripte style LATIN CAPITAL 
LETTER L WITH PROPER CEDILLA (marshallese) to the ad-hoc style
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER MARSHALLESE LETTER L WITH  CEDILLA. But this is a question 
of style and can be debatted endlessly without consensus.

--Jörg Knappen

>Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/


 


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