yup i didnt catch the fact that the generator was diesel...thought he
was talking about the boat engines...

On Jun 1, 4:18 am, waterguy <[email protected]> wrote:
> One thing, HBH - no spark plugs or tune up needed on a diesel
> generator (see first line of Keith's original post).
>
> Keith - on a diesel, the very first place I'd suspect is clogged
> filters and/or water in the fuel.  What kind of filters do you have?
> Diesel fuel injectors are *exceedingly* intolerant of contaminants;
> they're built to hundred-thousand inch tolerances, and any crud will
> make them run bad or not at all.  Virtually all problems with diesel
> engines are traceable to fuel -- that is, unless the motor is soooooo
> tired that it won't make enough compression to ignite the fuel.  But
> you'd have had a lot of warning that you were getting to that point -
> lots of smoke, unburned fuel smell, etc.
>
> First and foremost, you must determine what kind of genset you have.
> Odds are you have an Onan or Kohler.  What color is it painted?  Look
> around on the set, there should be a plate that gives manufacturer,
> model number and serial number.  Is there a generator owner's manual
> that came with your boat?
>
> I don't mean to sound like a schmuck (which is what someone says when
> he's about to), but I'm surprised you don't know what kind of
> equipment your boat has -- especially since I infer from your post
> that you've had the boat for a while ("it had been a trusted and
> rather dependable unit for a long time").  Anyway, find out what
> you've got, and find a service manual for it (eBay is a great
> source).  If the manufacturer plate is missing, start poking around
> and look for decals, tags, even a name cast into the cylinder block.
>
> If you totally can't ID the generator, take a bunch of photos from
> different angles and post them.  Oh - post them somewhere that people
> can access them.  I tried to look at your link and got a "403 - Access
> Denied" error message.  I'm supposed to be signed in to look at that
> photo, and of course, I can't sign in to your account.  I did a search
> for "Ramlin'" in Webshots, and got somebody's wedding; then I searched
> for "Uniflite" and found a boat up in the San Juan's that might be
> yours, but it's called the "It'll Do."  So I couldn't tell.
>
> Once you ID the generator, pick up a service manual for it.  Even
> though there are fewer things the average owner can do on a diesel
> without specialized tools, the service manual will tell you how to get
> things apart and back together, which can save you some dough.  Like
> if you need to have the injectors or injector pump tested, you can
> pull them and take them to a shop rather than paying someone to do
> it.  However, if you're not confident of your mechanical abilities, do
> NOT screw around with a diesel engine.  Gas engines are much more
> forgiving of ham-fisted repairs than diesels are, and the financial
> consequences of screwing up are much more serious with a diesel than a
> gas motor.
>
> The most important thing you can do yourself is to replace all your
> filters, and if the filters are original, consider replacing with a
> high-quality Racor or other name brand water separator/filter.
> Remember to re-fill the filters with fuel and try to get all the air
> out of the lines.  You'll have to crack the lines to the injectors and
> purge all the air before it will run.
>
> That's about all you can do without specialized equipment - the next
> step is to pull the injectors and take them to a diesel repair shop
> and have them checked for spray pattern and clogged nozzles; you need
> a special test bench for this.  Don't try to bend the metal fuel tube
> from the injector pump to the injector, it's not designed to bend
> much, just enough to pull the injector out.  If the injectors are
> okay, you may have a problem with the injector pump itself, if it got
> some crud in it.
>
> Water in a diesel fuel system is extraordinarily bad; you should have
> a water separating filter that needs routine replacement or a
> separator bowl on the filter that needs routine draining.  One water
> gets to the injector pump or injectors, it's only a short time before
> they're ruined.  On a diesel, filter replacement and water draining is
> the equivalent of the spark plugs/tune up on a gas motor:  routine
> maintenance that cannot be overlooked.
>
> Good luck
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