I see. How much is Kyle having to pay Penn to get them to host his server and lend him an IP address?
Would I be able to do the same if I pay them to host a server for me and loan me an IP address? Who gets to do this? Must one be directly affiliated with the University or have someone who IS affiliated do it for you? On 7/29/07 7:32 PM, "Anthony West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, Andy. Nice to read hard facts on UC-list this evening. > > Based on your experience, what sort of control do you think the Pope, or > the Franciscan Order, or Villanova Univ. exercises over the content of > this unmoderated UC-list, based on the mere fact of its mechanical > address? Suppose the list became moderated instead -- how would that > change the influence that Main Line Roman Catholicism now wields over > UC-list as we know it? > > -- Tony West > > Andrew Diller wrote: >> If I may---- Actually, there is institutional affiliation: Villanova! >> >> For some context, there are two things you need to know about any >> computer on the Internet: >> >> 1. who hold the DNS records for that domain >> 2. where is the IP address of the server located? (what ISP?) >> >> Only large institutions (penn, apple, comcast) 'own' the blocks of IP >> addresses that each computer must have to participate on the Internet. >> When you pay one of these people to host your server, they lend you an >> IP address. You then map a name (list.purple.com) to that particular >> ip address, and then people can use your server. >> >> People don't find it easy to type in numbers like 153.104.63.228 all >> the time, so other smart people invented DNS (the Domain Name system). >> Almost every IP address has a DNS name mapped to it to make it easy >> for people to use. >> >> So using DNS, we can address things like email to list.purple.com >> (which is a particular computer) instead of it's IP address, which is >> 153.104.63.228. Both those point to the same thing. >> >> So, to answer #1, it looks like Villanova holds the DNS records for >> purple. So it is safe to say that there _is_ an institutional >> affiliation for purple. >> >> Here is the record for it's DNS: >> >> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >> ;purple.com. IN A >> >> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: >> purple.com. 6716 IN SOA ftp.ece.villanova.edu. >> root.ftp.ece.villanova.edu. 2006061100 43200 14400 3600000 259200 >> >> ;; Query time: 10 msec >> ;; SERVER: 207.245.82.2#53(207.245.82.2) >> ;; WHEN: Sun Jul 29 19:08:36 2007 >> >> And here is a GEO lookup for the actual list.purple.com computer: >> >> The IP 153.104.63.228 is located in: >> Country: United States (US) >> Region: PA >> City: Villanova >> Latitude: 40.0369 >> Longitude: -75.3486 >> >> (http://www.websitegoodies.com/tools/geoip.php) >> >> So, there you are. >> >> -andy diller >> >> >> > > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
