Personally, I have a domain name which I rent from some characters in Bulgaria, and I strongly suspect their server to be under the control of some segment of the Eastern Orthodox Church. In fact, I have the capacity, as part of my rental agreement, to host up to 25 email lists at the drop of a thurible.
In fact, the more I think about it the more I think this might be the perfect solution to the UC Listserv Woes. Then we as an online community would be neither subservient to nor under the sinister control of either Fransciscans, Jesuits, Villanova or Penn. The downside of course is that the domain would bear my name, viz. rossbender.org. But I would moderate with perhaps not so heavy a hand as friend Cassidy. Just a suggestion, of course, but say the word and I'd be able to set up a list in a jiffy. We could call it The Wacko List @rossbender.org. On 7/29/07, Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am aware of this. I have organized a listserv for my colleagues in the > School District of Philadelphia. > > My question was with regard to how one gets Penn to host one's server and > lend one an IP address. > > Thanks. > > > On 7/29/07 8:08 PM, "Andrew Diller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You can pretty much do it yourself, for free at Google. Google calls > > listservs "groups." > > > > http://groups.google.com/ > > > > > > > > > > -andy diller > > > > > > Wilma de Soto wrote: > >> I see. How much is Kyle having to pay Penn to get them to host his > server > >> and lend him an IP address? > >> > >> Would I be able to do the same if I pay them to host a server for me > and > >> loan me an IP address? Who gets to do this? Must one be directly > >> affiliated with the University or have someone who IS affiliated do it > for > >> you? > >> > >> > >> On 7/29/07 7:32 PM, "Anthony West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks, Andy. Nice to read hard facts on UC-list this evening. > >>> > >>> Based on your experience, what sort of control do you think the Pope, > or > >>> the Franciscan Order, or Villanova Univ. exercises over the content of > >>> this unmoderated UC-list, based on the mere fact of its mechanical > >>> address? Suppose the list became moderated instead -- how would that > >>> change the influence that Main Line Roman Catholicism now wields over > >>> UC-list as we know it? > >>> > >>> -- Tony West > >>> > >>> Andrew Diller wrote: > >>>> If I may---- Actually, there is institutional affiliation: Villanova! > >>>> > >>>> For some context, there are two things you need to know about any > >>>> computer on the Internet: > >>>> > >>>> 1. who hold the DNS records for that domain > >>>> 2. where is the IP address of the server located? (what ISP?) > >>>> > >>>> Only large institutions (penn, apple, comcast) 'own' the blocks of IP > >>>> addresses that each computer must have to participate on the > Internet. > >>>> When you pay one of these people to host your server, they lend you > an > >>>> IP address. You then map a name (list.purple.com) to that particular > >>>> ip address, and then people can use your server. > >>>> > >>>> People don't find it easy to type in numbers like 153.104.63.228 all > >>>> the time, so other smart people invented DNS (the Domain Name > system). > >>>> Almost every IP address has a DNS name mapped to it to make it easy > >>>> for people to use. > >>>> > >>>> So using DNS, we can address things like email to list.purple.com > >>>> (which is a particular computer) instead of it's IP address, which is > >>>> 153.104.63.228. Both those point to the same thing. > >>>> > >>>> So, to answer #1, it looks like Villanova holds the DNS records for > >>>> purple. So it is safe to say that there _is_ an institutional > >>>> affiliation for purple. > >>>> > >>>> Here is the record for it's DNS: > >>>> > >>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION: > >>>> ;purple.com. IN A > >>>> > >>>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > >>>> purple.com. 6716 IN SOA ftp.ece.villanova.edu > . > >>>> root.ftp.ece.villanova.edu. 2006061100 43200 14400 3600000 259200 > >>>> > >>>> ;; Query time: 10 msec > >>>> ;; SERVER: 207.245.82.2#53(207.245.82.2) > >>>> ;; WHEN: Sun Jul 29 19:08:36 2007 > >>>> > >>>> And here is a GEO lookup for the actual list.purple.com computer: > >>>> > >>>> The IP 153.104.63.228 is located in: > >>>> Country: United States (US) > >>>> Region: PA > >>>> City: Villanova > >>>> Latitude: 40.0369 > >>>> Longitude: -75.3486 > >>>> > >>>> (http://www.websitegoodies.com/tools/geoip.php) > >>>> > >>>> So, there you are. > >>>> > >>>> -andy diller > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> ---- > >>> You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > >>> list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > >>> <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > >> > >> > >> ---- > >> You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > >> list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > >> <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > ---- > > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > -- Ross Bender http://rossbender.org
