I think 85% of the problem is that e-mail frees many people of normal
social constraints.  People will e-attack when they would never do so in
person, or not in the same inappropriate manner.  I also think sometimes
people can write in a manner that sounds more harsh than they intend or
realize, especially since there are no visual cues to the contrary as
would be the case in a face to face.
Paul
 
The above statement really sums much of the problem up to me. It is all
about having common respect for each other
in your community, virtual or otherwise.
 
The "so-called" listserv stalker Bruce is referring to is me. And for
the record Bruce, I will match my reputation in this
community against yours any day of the week. Neighbors know what I have
done here for years and continue to do.
 
Bruce has been on a bully and hate campaign for quite sometime trying to
migrate people from UC-List over to 
"Phillyblog" for years.
 
Bruce is someone who spends entirely too much time in the "on-line"
world and has adopted all the online habits 
of infiltrating listservs and spreading lies and innuendo on-list and
privately after "sniffing" e-mail addresses of posters.
 
How juvenile and pathetic.
 
I approached Bruce in the park and all of a sudden this "Listserv Bully"
and "Cyber-Offending Giant", looking at a 6', 200 
pound man, turned into a stuttering coward who literally ran with a
baby-in-coach while screaming "stay away from me"! 
(poor baby in coach.maybe I should have screamed DHS!)
 
I simply reminded him I was a real person and not someone in his
"video-game" world.
 
Wow Bruce, maybe you should have just treated me with a bit more respect
on-line and it could have been.as they say..
"just a walk in the park". I never "stalked" you in anyway and you know
it. This kind of cyber "pseudo-intimidation" is 
exactly why you should go where ever people like you go.to yet another
listserv. I am entirely too busy to care.
 
And.BTW.."listserv stalker" would refer to someone who is stalking
someone on-line.
 
Most of this mess we are talking about is related to jealousy against
those of us who actually DO SOMETHING about
building our community and empowering residents as partners with the
institutions. 
 
Bruce, the more you attempt to defame me, privately or otherwise, the
more people realize how dysfunctional you really are.
 
And just what have you ever done in this community anyway?
 
S
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Andersen
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:10 PM
To: UnivCity listserv
Cc: pfsni list
Subject: Re: Listserve Reform of the UC list
 
It's self-evident. I wasn't really in favor of Kyle starting a new list
since psfni is almost dead, and I thought Univcity was salvageable. 
 
Though I may stay on the announce list, after 8 years in this virtual
community I'm unsubscribing from [email protected] because the
signal to noise ratio is ludicrous. Really though, the last straw was a
couple of weeks ago when I a listserve poster verbally assaulted me in
Clark Park over listserve issues and engaged in some behavior I might
consider stalking. 
 
See you all around.
 
b
 
P.S. Fair warning to the Listserve Stalker: If you come near me or my
family again, I'm going to slap a Restraining Order on you faster than
you can say "Law Enforcement."

 
On 7/28/07, Kathy O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: 
Could you please define "bad traffic" ?


B Andersen wrote:
> I'm tired of the bad traffic here on the listserve, and I know I'm not

> the only one. I propose we meet in person to discuss one (or more) of
> five options:
>
> *Develop rules and guidelines (and allow moderation)
> *Migrate to psfni
> *start an alternate group 
> *Move to a BB like Phillyblog
> *leave things as they are
 

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