Yes, magnet schools are open to the entire city with the caveat that one
meets the qualifications for the program the school offers.

High schools to my knowledge have not been traditionally restricted to an
immediate residential area.  Rather, they usually accept students who have
attended one of all the elementary schools/middle schools ³feeder schools²
in the area.  For instance, people who went to Bryant, Huey, Lea, Sayre,
(when  it was a middle school), Locke, Blankenburg, Barry, Hamilton could
ostensibly wind up attending West Philly High School.


On 4/5/08 1:07 PM, "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wilma,
>  
> I have another question.  The Phila. magnet schools don't really have a set
> catchment area, or am I wrong?
>  
> I thought that was a big contradiction in the news reports.  I was wondering
> if this was an indication that Penn was going to make some special request.
>  
> Remembering the maps when the Sadie Alexander catchment area was drawn, it was
> clear that the boundaries were designed through a consideration of real estate
> value.
>  
> I wondered, what are Penn and Drexel doing by describing a local catchment
> area (70%) for this magnet school??  If a magnet school could draw from the
> entire city, what does this mean?
>  
> Is Penn/Drexel going to actually draw some "unique" catchment district to
> reserve the slots around its holdings?  I couldn't figure out what they were
> trying to pull but something seemed wrong.
>  
> I'll try to find the answer too.  Are magnet schools open to the entire city?
>  
> Isn't it nice to engage in real discussions with each other without those
> goofballs distracting everyone with pot shots to make us keep silent?  We've
> got a civil public listserv!
>  
> Thanks,
> Glenn  
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  
>> From:  Wilma de  Soto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  
>> To: Dave Axler <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ; UnivCity  listserv
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:39  PM
>>  
>> Subject: Re: [UC] Penn schools
>>  
>> 
>> You¹re welcome.
>> 
>> Traditionally, High Schools  don¹t have catchment areas per se.
>> 
>> That¹s why I included Drew and Powel  school maps since they are in the
>> immediate vicinity of UC High School.   You can also see Martha Washington,
>> and McMichael¹s areas which are due  north and West of Powel and Drew.
>> 
>> West Philadelphia HS School¹s area  would be included in the H. C. Lea
>> School¹s catchment area.
>> 
>> 
>> On  4/5/08 12:25 PM, "Dave Axler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Thanks, Wilma. I have a reasonable idea of Penn  Alexander's catchment area
>>> -- at least enough to know that, though I'm 3.5  blocks from the school, my
>>> house is not in that area. What I'm hoping  someone can provide -- though
>>> Tony's earlier post offered some verbal  insight -- is a map showing the
>>> catchment areas for West Philadelpha HS and  UCHS.
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Wilma  de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: Dave Axler  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; UnivCity listserv
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:40  am
>>> Subject: Re: [UC] Penn schools
>>> 
>>> Here¹s a link to the Alexander  School Catchment Area form a Real Estate
>>> site:
>>> 
>>> http://philadelphiarealestatehub.com/blog/catchment/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On  4/5/08 3:31 AM, "Dave Axler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>>>> >> The  existance of Penn Alexander is causing its catchment area to
>>>>>> undergo  gentrification, and that would be increased if UC High became
>>>>>> "Penn-Assisted High".
>>>> 
>>>> If so, then what explains the gentrification  of the areas outside the
>>>> catchment area, such as the North side of the  4400 block of Sansom, my own
>>>> 4400 block of Chestnut, and similar parts of  UC? It can't be the school,
>>>> since the residents don't benefit from it. At  best, Penn Alexander is one
>>>> of many causes of gentrification within its  catchment area.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, high-school students living in Penn  Alexander's catchment area would
>>>> probably* be in the catchment area of  West Philadelphia HS, not University
>>>> City HS. According to the School  District's website, West Philadelphia HS
>>>> and Penn Alexander are both in  the "South" region, while UCHS is in the
>>>> "Restructured/EMO Region".  (Curiously, the site also lists a "University
>>>> of Penn HS", but without any  address. Dunno what that means...)
>>>> 
>>>> *I searched the PSD site to no  avail for catchment maps. If anyone knows
>>>> where to find 'em, or can  otherwise confirm or disprove my supposition, go
>>>> for  it!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:  KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: SH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;  [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:29 pm
>>>> Subject: RE:  [UC] Penn schools
>>>> 
>>>>> > Don't you think that Penn is mainly  interested in getting free
>>>>> schooling for their professors and well paid  staff in the neighborhood
>>>>> who normally would send their children to  private school?
>>>>> > Sharon
>>>>  
>>>> Yes.  
>>>>  
>>>> And  also to make Penn's graduate education program more competitive by
>>>> offering its own student teachers internships in a highly acclaimed
>>>> "urban" elementary school [Penn Alexander], populated by a well-behaved,
>>>> highly motivated, upper middle class student body.  If UC High  becomes a
>>>> Penn partnership school, then Penn can offer its grad students  teaching
>>>> opportunities in a similar "urban" high school, and Penn  Alexander grads
>>>> will have a top-notch neighborhood high school.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.gse.upenn.edu/cms/cms.php?id=171
>>>> http://www.upenn.edu/campus/westphilly/pas.html#PAS4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Although  Penn's website mentions working with Philadelphia public schools
>>>> other  than Penn Alexander, having what amounts to its own elementary and
>>>> high  school gives Penn's Graduate School of Education (GSE) its own "lab".
>>>> This  arrangement accomplishes two goals simultaneously: both the GSE
>>>> student  teachers and the Penn Alexander students receive a stellar
>>>> education. And the GSE has the advantage of not having to waste  precious
>>>> educational time dealing with the social ills that other public  schools
>>>> have do deal with.
>>>>  
>>>> The  existance of Penn Alexander is causing its catchment area to undergo
>>>> gentrification, and that would be increased if UC High became
>>>> "Penn-Assisted High". Penn  employees and young people with children will
>>>> want to send their children  to a top-notch public school, and will move to
>>>> the catchment areas, in  turn creating a more upscale neighborhood, in turn
>>>> reversing the public  perception of the neighborhood being dangerous, in
>>>> turn making it easier  for Penn to market the University. Rising property
>>>> values would eventually  force those deemed undesirable out of the area.
>>>>  
>>>> While Penn  is saying that 70% of a new UC High's students would come from
>>>> the  neighborhood, the gentrification that Penn-Assisted High would very
>>>> likely  cause would mean that the "neighborhood" would probably not consist
>>>> of the  same people who live there now.
>>>>  
>>>> Having top-notch public  schools is the obvious ideal, and if Penn
>>>> Alexander and possibly UC High  are such schools, that is wonderful. But
>>>> these schools have to exist  across the board, not just in select
>>>> neighborhoods for select  demographics. The key is creating Penn Alexanders
>>>> in all of the city  neighborhoods.
>>>>  
>>>> Motivated, advantaged kids are going to do  well in any event, because
>>>> their parents have the ability and resources to  see that they do.  The
>>>> really hard job is in creating strategies that  will reach disadvantaged
>>>> kids and their families and in doing whatever it  takes to make sure that
>>>> those kids can also take full advantage of the  opportunities those schools
>>>> present. THAT would be world-changing!   Penn, are you up to THAT job?
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
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