Oh, wait!  I think I just found a windows formatted 20GB ATA HD sitting
around!  I'll just slip this into the beige and reformat it for Apple
Extended.

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Andrew

----- Original Message -----
From: "MacFreak4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Unsupported OS X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Panther on Beige 233


> I have tried OSX on the external 9.1GB but since it is SCSI-1 on the ext
bus
> it is extremely sluggish.  Also, I have an iBook G4 which is where i got
the
> cds from and it has 256MB RAM which runs fine.  I also tried to force OSX
> Panther install to use old video drivers to no avail.  I am still reading
my
> emails so I will respond to others' messages soon....
>
> --
> Andrew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kris Tilford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Unsupported OS X" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Panther on Beige 233
>
>
> >   "Andrew, a Mac Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I am new to both this list and the unsupported mac os X list
> > > (though
> > > I am old with macs and other lowendmac lists).  I was "sent away" from
> > > the PCI PPC list with this problem/question:  how to install panther
> > > on a
> > > beige 233 G3 (revA rom, 4gb hd, 128mb ram, all the bare minimums.  All
> > > I
> > > need X for is my web server)  I have downloaded and tried XPostFacto
to
> > > no avail.  When it tries to install from the cd, upon startup, it
> > > replaces the grey apple logo with an x (the kind of "x" in front of
the
> > > cigarette on no smoking signs, if you get what I'm saying ;)  Anyhow,
I
> > > am stuck with OS9 on an external scsi 9.1gb drive.  Any help?
> >
> > I can't see this ever working. I think this system is too minimal for
> > Panther. Jaguar might run really slow, and Puma even slower.
> > First, you need a Radeon card for Panther since the built-in Rage isn't
> > supported, at least not directly upon installation. You can use Jaguar
> > or Puma with the built-in.
> > Second, 128 MB RAM is little, it's below the fixed amount Panther
> > needs. Even 256 MB would be minimal, and 384 MB barely adequate.
> > Third, 4 GB is probably too small. If you get the Radeon & memory, put
> > OS 9 on the 4 GB and OS X on the 9.1 GB SCSI and you'll be happier. If
> > you skip the Radeon, you'll still need the memory for Jaguar or Puma to
> > have any speed at all.
> >
> > Things to look at: is the CD really good? Have you booted it before?
> > Also, does the 233 have the firmware update for the CD-ROM? Both these
> > are problems that can stop the CD from booting.
> >
> > Good luck! Kris Tilford



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