On 5/9/07, jtaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Troublesome especially when there is a standard: W3C
HTML - W3C standard
CSS - W3C standard
SVG - W3C standard
SMIL - W3C standard
AJAX - W3C standard
JS - W3C standard
Firefox - virtually W3C compliant
Safari - web kit (10.5) now pretty compliant
Java - now open sourced.
Ruby Rails - open sourced
PHP - open sourced

the other formats are proprietary, lock-in intended, embrace, extend,
extinguish,  formats.  Proceed at your own risk.


Is that FUD I smell?

Large parts of Adobe's efforts are open sourced.  Large parts of Microsoft's
efforts are open sourced.  All of Suns efforts will be open sourced.  All
have their own technology stack, so there isn't much embrace and extend that
I see.  All vendors have one thing in common though, they want you to buy
their tools.

I'm kinda sad to see so much cynicism on this list.  These are all terrific,
creative, and exciting technologies.  I'm glad that there is so much going
on in this space.  I find it very exciting.  It may not mean that AJAX is
dead (nor should it), but it is exciting nonetheless.

Alvaro Carrasco wrote:
> Victor Villa wrote:
>> I'm sure that many here are old enough to remember the legendary
>> battle of
>> IE 4 v Netscape 4.   I'm sure many of us still have JS snippets of
>> browser
>> detection so that the IE code is given to the IE browser and the
>> Netscape
>> code is given to the netscape browser.
>>
>>
>>
>> What a nightmare, I'm sure glad THOSE days are over; or are they?
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems that Havoc has been cried and the dogs of war slipped over the
>> battleground of RIA.  Here is what I mean.
>>
>>
>> Adobe Flash &  Apollo v MS Silverlight & WPF v FireFox Cairo v Sun
>> JavaFX v
>> AJAX JS Frameworks v APEE (Anomalous Pretty Eye-candy Engine).
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
> At least on this war we get to choose which technology to use. On the
> browser wars, we were forced to deal with both browsers.
>
> Alvaro
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