Sadly, we have not, as a group, demonstrated very much capacity for
thoughtful discussion on some of these issues. Inevitably the
discussions have descended into flame wars -- to the point that we
largely choose to ignore these concepts, for the sake of peace on the
list.

Of course, it has been some time since we had a flame war. Have we
evolved/grown/matured to the point that we can reason together, listen
thoughtfully, and discuss opposing viewpoints without bickering?
Perhaps, but I'm not holding my breath.

I would disagree with that. PLUG and BYU LUG perhaps, but the UPHPU has always been rather courteous. There really haven't been that make flame wars on this list.

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