Sepuluh-> gangsal langkung gangsal
Sewelas-> gangsal langkung gangsal langkung setunggal
Rolas-> gangsal langkung gangsal langkung kalih

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Balasan: Re: [Urang Sunda] Kanggo vs Kangge (Ngocoblak basa)

Tah... resep kieu mah loa nu milu ngaguar perkara kajembaran basa...
  
  "Minggon tina mingguan", enya nya... Kapan pakuwon teh tina pakuwuan
(kantor kuwu/lurah), pagupon teh tina pagupuan (kandang japati). Ari
demplon? Ah, demplon mah tangtuna oge... demplon we...!
  
  "Ari Senen, Salasa, ... naon lemesna?", ceuk kang Emod. Jadi inget kana
itungan urang wetan:
  
  siji -> setunggal
  loro -> kalih
  telu -> tigo
  papat -> sekawan
  limo-> gangsal
  enem-> gangsal langkung setunggal
  pitu-> gangsal langkung kalih
  wolu-> gangsal langkung tigo
  jeung saterusna...
  
  Ana kitu mah, 
  Senen -> Minggon langkung sadinten
  Salasa -> Minggon langkung dua dinten
  Rebo -> Minggon langkung tilu dinten
  jeung saterusna...
  
  Ha ha... tangtuna oge ieu mah ngacapruk...
  
  Mun enya mah rek dilemeskeun, "Tiis ceuli herang mata teh" jadi "Tiis
cepil herang soca". Tapi, duka tah, naha ari paribasa kaci dilemeskeun
(atawa dilomakeun)?
  
  Aya deui anu maksa ngalemeskeun kecap teh: 
  T: Naon basa lemesna heuay?
  J: Patebih waos...!
  Asa leuwih lemes tibatan angob, nya...?!
  
  "sanes kanten" naon nya hartina? Mun teu salah mah ieu teh hartina  "loba
tapi sa-ordo (ceuk urang biologi mah)". Contona: sanes kanten  katuangan,
sanes kanten raksukan. Jadi, da enyana, teu bisa dihartikeun  "loba" (ieu
mah bisa nuduhkeun hiji "species": loba duit, loba jelem)  atawa "rupa-rupa"
(aya ku rupa-rupa eta kaulinan barudak ayeuna, rupa  rupa atuh dagangan
pasar mah). Tapi, ke ke ke heula... conto rupa-rupa  nu bieu disebut teh pan
sa-"ordo" keneh, nyaeta "ordo kaulinan" jeung  "ordo dagangan pasar"...
Jadi? Sok ah geura padungdengkeun deui, rek ka  kampus heula yeuh...
  
  Lain, ari Ki Hasan ka mana nya? San...!? Saaann...!? Jaleuleueueu....
  
  AJ
  
  
  

Emod Morales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:          Tah...kuring rek
ngiluan ngacapruk................!
    Ceuk pamanggih kuring mah Minggon lain lemesna tina Minggu, Minggon teh
asalna tina mingguan.
    Conto : Kuring miang ka Jakarta saminggon sakali. Lain hartina tiap poe
Minggu, bisa Senen, Salasa atawa Rebo.
    Lamun Minggon lemesna tina Minggu, ari Senen, Salasa, Rebo, Kemis,
Juma'ah jeung Saptu naon ?
     
    Aya deui di Bandung, bakat ku hayang lemes Paribasa dilemeskeun..!
    " Tiis ceuli herang mata" dilemeskeun jadi "Tiis ceuli / cepil herang
panon"
     
    Kumaha tah bener teu sim kuring...?
     
    Hiji deui rek tumanya ari hartina "sanes kanten" naon....?
    = rupa-rupa, loba....lain !
     
    cag ah...bis rieuurrrr
     
    Emod Morales
  
  Aj Kusnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
    Ceuk rarasaan kuring mah anu kaasup basa dusun teh nyaeta:'kanggo' jadi
'kangge', sarta 'minggu' jadi 'minggon'... 
    
   Ari 'pribadi' jeung 'pribados' teh naha bener saharti jeung sarua
larapananan? Naha kecap 'pribados' dina kalimah basa lemes kieu:   "Pribados
atas nami kulawargi Mang Engkos...", bisa diganti ku   'pribadi' dina basa
ngoko (mun tea mah 'pribados' lain  basa  dusun)? Ceuk kuring mah kecap
'pribadi' panceg dina conto kalimah   kieu: "Kuring pribadi teu panuju kana
pamadegan sarupa kitu...".  Tuh  geuning 'pribadi' jeung 'pribados' teh teu
saharti... BTW,  'satuju' atawa 'panuju' seeehhh... Ah, diganti we kalimahna
jadi kieu:  "Kuring  pribadi teu sapagodos jeung pamadegan sarupa kitu..."
('satuju' jadi  'sapagodos', 'kana' jadi 'jeung'... Tapi tangtu  'satuju'
atawa 'panuju'  teh teu saharti jeung 'sapagodos'...  'Sapagodos' mah
resistansi-na leuwih hampang...)
    
    Tapi (oge) asana mah 'pribados' teh kaasup basa dusun (jeung  salah
larapan)... Kalimah di luhur asa leuwih ngeunah lamun siga  kieu: "Sim
kuring atas nami kulawargi Mang Engkos...". Jadi kecap  'pribados' teh  teu
diperlukeun dina Basa Sunda... (Lakadalah...  wawanianan kieu si  AJ...!
Tapi da kitu kuduna, basa dusun teh teu  diperlukeun...)
    
    'Sim kuring' ceuk kuring mah kaasup basa lemes, bisa ngaganti  kecap
'abdi' pikeun nu ngarasa beurat ngagunakeun kecap 'abdi'  (sabab kecap
'abdi' ngahandapkeun teuing dirina, popoyongkodan  teuing pikeun dirina,
sanajan teu kabeh US sapagodos jeung sikep  kaya kieu), tapi aya oge nu
mucunghulkeun kecap 'sim abdi' (anu  ceuk kuring mah basa dusun) pikeun
ngaganti 'sim kuring'. Di  sagigireun eta, aya nu ngaganti 'sim kuring'
jadi 'si kuring' anu  karasana henteu lemes atawa ngoko, siger tengah
meureun, pas  bujal (punten ah... da sering ningal di jalan ayeuna mah
geuning)  he he...
    
    'Abdi', taya lian hartina iwal ti 'abid' (Arab, nyanyahoanan  yeuh)
'budak' (Indonesia), 'hamba sahaya' (Indonesia). Kukituna,  teu aneh  lamun
'abdi' dina Basa Sunda teh papadananana 'saya'  dina Bahasa  Indonesia, anu
asalna tina 'sahaya', 'budak'  (Indonesia) tea... Nya  pantes bae lamun Iwan
Fals tara  ngagunakeun kecap 'saya', tapi 'aku'...  Tapi, kapan 'aku' mah
asalna ti wetan... Tapi keun bae ah, da Iwan Fals  oge lain  Bandung
pituin... (naha jadi ka dieu na nyaritana...!!??)
    
    'Taya lian' teh asalna tina kalimah 'teu aya lian' anu sok  dilemeskeun
jadi 'teu aya sanes'... Tah tah tah... Kuring panuju  lamun 'lian' teh
lemesna 'sanes'. 'teu aya sanes' jadi 'teu aya  lian' mah netelakeun  yen,
dina lebah dieu mah, basa ngoko teh  eleh ku basa lemes, teu bisa  ngokokeun
'teu aya'... Supaya teu  kaciri teuing elehna, nya (dina basa  ngoko) 'teu
aya' teh jadi  'taya'... Licik nya...!!
    
    Punten ah ngocoblak...
    
    AJ
    
    
  
  mj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:          
    
    aya kecap2 basa sunda, nu siga basa lemes, tapi mun diilikan, cenah eta
    teu lain basa lemes siga dina UUB. sanaojan sami we tujuanana mah,
    enggoning ngalemeskeun basa.
    
    kang Adang S, pangarang sastra sunda -ayeuna pupuhu Caraka Sundanologi
-nu
    pangsiunan tangtara siliwangi, kantos nerangkeun dina kongress awal2
    KUSnet, taun 2001an, cenah nu kitu teh basa dusun. hartina, enya
dilelemes
    tapi teu dina basa sunda baku. nya rada barayana basa sunda nu pikeun
    budak leutik, basa ogo atawa ngogo.
    
    angge acukna, neng...biasa dilarapkeun ka balita kelas A.
    balita kelas B mah, bawah lima puluh tahun.
    tuang, dahar, neda, pikeun budak jadi emam.
    
    duka tah nu jadi os dihandap kieu lebet ka bsd (basa sunda dusun) atawa
    henteu.
    
    sanajan =sanaos
    kaharti=kahartos
    karasa=karaos
    pribadi=pribados
    tongo= tongos...eh salah nu ieu mah.
    
    robah hurup:
    kanggo= kangge
    minggu= minggon
    robah=robih
    
    
    
    mj
    
    http://geocities.com/mangjamal
    
    
    
    
              
  
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