On 01/20/2013 04:41 AM, Potts Jeff wrote:
When I was looking for a job back in the mid 90's I was at an interview
where they wanted 2 years java experience. THe problem was Java was just
getting out of beta and due to be released in a couple of months. I was
stupefied. . . it was like my C++ experience wasn't good enough. I would
have had to have been on the Java development team to have the experience
they were looking for let alone understand that Java is just a dummies
version of C++.
I learned from then on that HR people are asses,
And not only HR people . . .
When I wanted to hire a co-teacher-cum-secretary at my schoolette here
in Bulgaria I wrote down what I wanted;
but, almost inevitably, the nature of what I required the teacher to do
over the next 2 years changed, and she and
I have had some fairly colourful exchanges as a result.
As the current co-teacher-cum-secretary is due to leave in June this
year (which is bad as she does a damn fine job),
I am faced with 2 possible ways to advertise:
1. A highly detailed job description (which will probably be valueless
as the job, buy its very nature, seems to keep changing), or
2. "Needed, a general worker to do all sorts of unspecified stuff at the
whim of a capricious employer; mindbogglingly
high and varied qualifications required."
And, guess what; I will be running around with a large pair of donkey's
ears come-what-may!
The only possible difference is that I know I'll look like a prize
what-d'ye-call-it fairly soon after get a new employee,
and will be prepared to sit down over a cup of coffee and thrash things
out with that person.
just as career managers
are. The irony was that I was living in Toronto at the time and was at a
career/job/recruiting fair some weeks later and the American companies were
all like you played around with Java and have C++, we'll train you and
you're hired. I went to the USA to work and found that HR, job requirements
and experience are regarded much differently from country to country. In
Canada they want you to have already done the job before they give it to
you. In the USA they will train and work to make you a valuable employee.
In Canada training costs money and therefor they shy away from any type of
training promises or requirements.
The story is different when you have worked in the USA and return to Canada
though. They are all over you thinking you have attained some sort of mojo
or magic. I spent 8 years working abroad and don't regret it at all. I look
for international opportunities whenever possible.
Don't get me wrong,
Ha, ha, ha: half the problem is that almost everybody - employers and
employees alike -
are constantly getting each other wrong.
not all job openings and opportunities are like what I
experienced. My only recommendation is remember that outlandish job
requirements means people will have to forge experience just to get in for
a an interview. This behaviour ust makes it worse for everyone, not to
mention false information can kill your career if you get caught.
Many years ago . . . I went for a job interview in a hotel in London for
a teaching job out in the desert
in the United Arab Emirates. They asked me if I had any teaching
qualifications (I had none),
they asked me if I had any teaching experience (I had none), and,
eventually asked me why I was applying,
to which I replied "I need the job and you need a teacher, and not many
people are going to be
prepared to teach in a load of wooden huts in the middle of the desert."
I got the job.
Subsequently I got all sorts of fancy qualifications; whether they make
me a better teacher or not,
I just cannot decide.
Richmond.
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