Here is a link to apple's developer info about the "Text Services" codec:

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/mac/text/Text-409.html

Apple offers a "text summary service" that will reduce a given hunk of text to any length specified. I don't know, but I would be surprised if the hooks into this tech do not offer other meaningful functionality that could be used to produce semantically salient condensations of text that could then be folded into a more robust and friendly set of tools for the acquisition of meaning at some useful level.

Randall


On Aug 21, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:

Sorry, I have been spelling "phoneme" wrong. Here is a link to the apple tech to which I refereed:

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Mac/Sound/Sound-201.html

It is part of the text-to-speech tool box. Makes sense. And it is available to all. I would be surprised if something similar wasn't also available in Windows and Unix. It works in reference to language-specific libraries, and is thus portable and localizable.

On the Mac, SuperCard used to provide a hook into this functionality (maybe through an external).

Randall

On Aug 21, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:

I didn't mean to imply that it would be easy. I am saying it is important. Much more important than the crap we get caught up in simply because the tools exist. Apple has a core technology in its text services tools that breaks text into base phonems and is language agnostic. Semantic processing will open up a whole new world to computer application. There are reasonable steps that can be taken right now that are no more absurd than what hypercard was to programming when it was revolutionary twenty some years ago.

randall

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gaskin <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:05 PM
To: How to use Revolution <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Syllabic division of words

Randall Reetz wrote:

These functions can be written upon a meta-grammatical base
that will work across languages.  Rev already does this in
limited ways.  I find these limits absurd and backwards.
Provencial even.  It is long past time to ask the big
questions of computing as a field.  We follow as sheep,
even when we are in charge of computing's future.

Perhaps you could enlighten RunRev and the rest of us "sheep" by
providing scripted versions of these functions you'd like to see in the
engine?

 From your description it doesn't sound like it would take much time.


-----Original Message-----
On 21 Aug 2009, at 19:16, Randall Reetz wrote:

In addition to syllables, the system should be able to identify the
following textual chunks:
Characters
Phonems
Words
Parts of speech (phrases)
subject/object
Semantic roots
Sentences
Paragraphs
Sections
Volumes
Sets
Lists
Multidimentional arrays and nested tables
Unlimited nested and overlapping hyperlinks and transclussions
Tempo, pausing, pitch, volume, and percussive contrast
Ontological association network mapping between any chunk or chunk
type

A simple, intuitive and robust interface and functional library to
address and effect these objects at every hierarchy of the
grammatical stack.


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  Richard Gaskin
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