On Nov 2, 2003, at 12:34 AM, Ryno Swart wrote:
Hi folks, I am just a bit disappointed.
Hang in there- Rev is worth the learning curve :-) More response below...
To Scott Rossi:
I was and am dead keen to download Scott's Ouija stack (I love your more personal work, Scott), but I ran into a few problems.
First, the stack appears to require Rev version 2.1, and would not even download to my version 2.0.1. Couldn't these stacks be saved to, for example, version 1?
The stack format has not changed (ever?) I believe. Maybe not since metacard earlier versions. But maybe Scott uses *features* that are new in 2.1? Just guessing- Scott can answer of course.
To the RunRev team:
Apart from Scott's stack, what on earth would an amateur want version 2.1 for? It is 30 day time-limited, and only professionals can afford it.
$75 for the "Express" version is not prohibitive even for amateurs, unless they are only looking for free software.
At least with the older versions I can still do my simple fun efforts within the 10 line script limits. Of course, by making new stacks inaccessible to these earlier versions, you can slowly get rid of the deadwood like me.
2.0 and 2.1 have major improvements in the IDE user interface, especially the properties inspector. It's simplified and less intimidating than the Rev 1.1.1 user interface. Rev 1.1.1 is kind of opaque when you first sit down and look at it, in my experience.
Eventually I downloaded 2.1. Took me about 3 hours on a 56k modem, plus, I had to try 3 times (my own problem, living in South Africa, I suppose). The trouble is that Stuffit does not recognise the File "revolution.sit" and cannot open it. The message reads: "The file 'revolution .sit' does not appear to be compressed or encoded. etc." So, double disappointment.
What version of Mac OS are you running? If OS X (judging from your mail headers), then you should download the OS X distribution, which is a DMG file, not a SIT file. revolutionosx.dmg is the filename. DMG is a Disk Image, and will open up with Disk Copy.app.
It sounds as if the Stuffit file was corrupted during download. I just downloaded revolution.sit and it uncompresses fine w/ Stuffit Expander.
So I am feeling somewhat lost. That is OK. But if it not your actual intention to lose people like myself, some rethinking is required. How are you going to reach the ten-year old geniuses? And the over 50-artists who are only looking for a way of expressing themselves in the greatest new medium the world has see, multimedia?
I'm sure it's not Runrev's intent to lose *any* users. Some folks have posted about a desire for a more intuitive/spartan IDE more like metacard or hypercard, where one can just dive in and start learning.
I can't really add to that - because I'm relatively new to the xtalk environments. But I can quote one of my favorite books :-)
"Instructive interfaces are user interfaces that, through clever construction and design, are inherently self-teaching. Instructive interfaces rely on intrinsic characteristics rather than external help or prompting to show the user how to use them. Instructive interfaces are +Intuitable, +Explorable and +Consistent." Constantine & Lockwood, Software for Use.
That is the holy grail of usability.
Alex Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Mindlube Software | <http://mindlube.com>
what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco
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