Ken,
I think you (and many others) have missed the point. Before RR, I (or you, or anyone else) could, and did, routinely provide stacks and the url for metacard so that the users of these stacks could, indeed, use them. No standalones. No need for them to purchase the engine (however ``reasonable''---give me a break--US$75 for the minimum?)--and no need to download a net-tested, 30-day ``demo''.


I have used, paid for, and promoted metacard for years (ask Scott Raney, if he agrees, to provide his records), and served as a beta-tester for RR; this RR attitude is *not* consistent with what Scott Raney and the MC team used to support. *If* a free---no network checked, 30-day ``demo''---of MC (i.e., an ``engine to run the stacks) were still (and always) freely available, I would be less concerned, but don't you (or Gay, or ...) defend the current model as ``reasonable'' as if that were the issue. It is fundamentally different. And, I believe, contrary to what most of us supporting and promoting MC over the years thought we were supporting and promoting. Like Ryno Swart, ``I am just a bit disappointed.'' Forget that: I am totally disappointed.

On Sunday, November 2, 2003, at 09:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi folks, I am just a bit disappointed.

$75 for the "Express" version is not prohibitive even for amateurs,
unless they are only looking for free software.
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You bet.

That's $24 US less than Apple's HyperCard, which has been effectively
"steved" for over 6 years, and, for all its attributes, is not in the same
modern ball park, utitlity-wise, as Rev, and $54 US less, straight out, than
SuperCard is for a HyperCard crossgrade deal.


NOTE: I'm not knocking SuperCard. I have the Developer's Edition, and use it
a lot (great editor choices). Plus, believe it or not, I still find some of
HC's solid features worth keeping it aboard.


In short, though, take your best shot. I don't think you can beat Rev for
$75. True, you can only develop and distribute for a single platform with
this version, but the same is true of other xTalk products in that class.


So if it is so that you actually have to pay a paltry $75 for what may
arguably be the best-in-class developer tool in the world...well, please
forgive me if I fail see the reason for the complaint.


Ken N.

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