Matthias and all,
"It's the non-linear workflow, and the particle effects in Houdini. "
As a point of debate - I sometimes get the impression that certain
quarters of the RS community frown upon other RS users who may be
using anything other than RS to do 3D work with. As is the case in
most 3D environments - outside of RS - their is huge
INTER-OPERABILITY going on. With alot of the other apps this is being
helped along with attention to import/export features and plugins.
For example Lightwave ==> xstream ==> Vue Infinite. This allows VUE
to be integrated completely into Lightwave. Obviously in the past FBX
[ due in RS v6 I think ] has provided other apps with a way of
porting anim data back and forth.
My rant has always been RSes lack of INTEROPERABILITY - effectively
only one real PRACTICAL way out / in and that is OBJ [ I know 3ds etc
] . RS is a traditional 3D app - model, texture, lighting, anim,
render - but these days some new apps have arisen which handle
SPECIALIST areas. For example MESSIAH, Character Animation mainly, as
is the case with MOTIONBUILDER. VUE / VUE INFINITE, TERRAGEN,
BRYCE - Vegetation/world type software. Deep Paint 3D - paint and
texture. Now also we have the rise of MODELLING APPs which cater
for Sculpting and displacement of hi poly models only [ render / anim
elsewhere ] - ZBRUSH, MUDBOX, SILO.
I can only imagine that it would enrich RSes user base and RS itself if -
FIRST - all its core functionality is cleared of any bugs [ if any ]
as a point of concentration [ I know this one will cause screams of
derision and disagreement :) ], and areas like animation / character
animation are brought up to the level of other 3D apps out their
AND SECOND - that RS has native import / export in alot of the above
to make it easier for RS users to add these SPECIALIST Apps to the
RS workflow.
Read through www.cgtalk.com - anyday and find that other all round 3D
apps are embracing specialist apps by the truck load rather than
ignoring them. I personally think it is folly for any all round 3D
app to try and be all things to all 3Ders. Impossible. Also that it
is folly to try and add every feature imaginable when other apps do
the same better and specifically.
On a final note - an app that is kind of trying the latter - BLENDER,
with its recent ver 2.43 release - is interesting to watch. Not alone
is it a traditional 3D app, but also a COMPOSITOR and VIDEO EDITOR
and UV UNWRAPPER. AND I stress a very good UV APP on its own. I
spent about an hour and a half going through the user interface tute
video's and found this apps interface not as daunting as I was told
it was. That besides I dont see any reason why PARTS OF THIS APP [
the video editor, the Compositor, the UV FUNCTIONALITY for example ]
cannot be added to the REALSOFT workflow by users. For example - with
the UV UNWRAP function - in with OBJ RS Model, unwrap, into paint
app, create the texture over the saved unwrapped image, back into RS
and texture this new material. This as an alternative to the paid for
apps like UVUNWRAP. [ Yes, I have found issues with RSes UV system -
maybe its my stupidity - if so fine, but inconsistent results
occurring particularly in the UVSET function with hardened edges etc
] Jeez lads ITS FREE and these areas do not interfere with RS, they
will enhance the final project surely.
And Matthias - if you have ever gotten over the BLENDER interface -
it has an NLA system and NODES and in my opinion some excellent
Character Animation tools now integrated in v2.43. I have been
doodling with Blender AND Realsoft - back and forth - OBJ at the mo.
I look forward maybe to a day when better communication in and out of
RS is possible on the model, texture, lighting, anim data front.
And of course maybe I will NOW eat the whole humble pie because all
the above and more are being addressed in the imminent release of RS
v6. If so I will gladly eat this pie. Now lets see how quiet the list
is - nothing like a good debate :)
Cheers Lads
Aidan
At 22:57 07/04/2007, you wrote:
Hi Garry,
I do not gave up ;-) (is gave correct?)
It's the non-linear workflow, and the particle effects
in Houdini.
RS was and is a great piece of software in my opinion,
and even if you don't like it Garry ;-), I do not plan a
runaway from RS.
Matthias
>
> Don't feel bad ... nobody can ! Apparently even Matthias
> Kappenberg has given up and gone to Houdini in an effort
> to create solid & smooth character choreography's .
>
> I think the tools are here in RS now , but we may be a
> plugin or 2 and a series of tutorials away from _easily_
> creating character anims with V5.x .
>
> Maybe V6 will get us a bit closer .
>
> studio
>
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