Hi Henry and Fredrik,
yes exactly ... nobody is upset here. I think Fredrik did understood very
well what I wanted to say. There have been already some discussions on the
betalist concerning the toolbar. It's already totally overcrowded. Such
overcrouded that you had to scroll the toolbar. If it comes to modelling
only a good workflow is needed. That's for my point of view really given
with RS. The interface doesn't look really modern.
No way I really see your point. I also tried Bryce and Poser. That's
software for 3D beginners and also usefull if you need fast results and have
a parsimonious customer. Anything else I found both extremely boring. But if
you look for advanced 3D software it is impossible to put all in the
interface. You've to learn the software.
Really not a bit upset here only an other opinion.
Cheers
Boris
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From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Snapping
Hi. I don't think anyone was upset. ;-)
I am guessing, but I think that the point Boris was making was that
when using a software regularly, after learning to use it, the
keyboard short cuts are essential for an efficient and productive work
flow. For learning, navigating menues and toolbars could be easier
than to memorise stuff, but not necessarily - having to switch between
different toolbars for performing simple tasks such as snapping to a
point sounds very much annoying to me.
Returning to the original topic, what is it exactly that you are
trying to do? To move a curve so that the end point is located on a
point of another curve, select the curve, start a move action using
the m-key or the move tool in the Transformation toolbar. Then hold
the comma key and left mouse button down as you drag a rectangle
around the point on the curve you want to move. Then release the left
mouse button, change view if necessary and then hold the comma key and
left mouse button down again as you drag a rectangle over the target
point.
Regardless of how the views were aligned, the two curves should now
intersect at the last selected point. At least it does when I try it.
I currently have v6, but this has been the same at least since v4.5 if
I am not mistaken.
2009/8/1 Henry Tjernlund <[email protected]>:
i'm sorry if I upset people with my criticism of RS. I don't mean to
be harsh. But when I spend half an hour trying to get things to snap,
and can't, its frustrating.
The other teacher I mentioned was not (my) teacher, but a fellow
teacher. He taught full time for his whole career. (He's retired now.)
I taught part-time for 11 years myself. I learned a lot from him, and
in that learning I would have to disagree. Teaching someone how to use
a program is not about speed typing. Its about concepts and
understanding why you are doing what you are being shown. In the
single course we had for 3D graphics and Animation, we used Bryce. I
was simple and easy and students quickly got results for little
effort. I doubt that any of them went on to use Bryce in a career. But
the point was to whet their appetite and give them an idea what it is
about. We had one 4-month course that met only twice a week to cover
enough material so that the student would know if that was something
that they wanted to invest more education in (at another school that
taught the subject in more depth.)
I myself am dyslexic and have even switched to a Dvorak keyboard
layout. It turned out not to help as much with spelling errors, as I
had hoped, but since doing that I have never experienced the
arm/wrist/hand fatigue as I used to with QWERTY. Many keyboard
shortcuts are geared toward QWERTY so some are actually more difficult
in Dvorak. But I also write fiction so the avoidance of arm strain is
good for me.
And back the the teaching. Versions ago in Photoshop some of the tools
used to require keyboard finger gymnastics. Then they put those same
options as icons up in the option's bar for that tool. That speeded
teaching. Before that I had to walk around and help almost half the
students to figure out the finder dance. When the options were
available as icons, the number of raised-hand interruptions dropped
noticeably.
Now whenever I try out a program, I aw well aware of how the interface
helps or hinders its use. The makers of RS might be brilliant at
figuring out the mathematics of making the program do something. But
the interface is not quite up to than same standard. And in the market
place, that can be a deciding factor.
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