Hi, first of all thanks to Joan for bringing this up. As Paul stated, if someone is feeling attacked we should discuss it.
I have viewed (if not gazed) the logo for several minutes. I can understand that someone is seeing a man with a maybe vulgar attitude. I personally don't see that. The whole idea combined with the "Relax" statement fits perfectly together. Then I started to ask Luigi, our senior designer, and asked him what he sees. He said "a relaxed man on a couch" (he did not know the term relax btw.). I asked him why he said "a man". He answered, because mostly men are hanging around on a couch like this. So yes, it is a relaxed man and someone could interpret his attitude vulgar or offensive. But it's still a relaxed man with no other intention. Nothing more. I am not sure why someone could assume, that the logo's meaning or intention should be something else than that. As a member of this community, I am feeling very responsible to not harm anyone. Be it women or men. In this case, I don't see a problem personally but I will for sure help to find a solution if we decide to change the logo. First shot for a minimal change: let the man cross his left leg over his right leg. Unfortunately this is not simple to do as my colleague Luigi noted. It would mean to also change the position of the man and maybe the size of the couch. Cheers Andy On 28 October 2014 08:40, Pedro Narciso García Revington < [email protected]> wrote: > I like the logo and I do not see the reason to change it. > > 2014-10-28 1:27 GMT+01:00 Joan Touzet <[email protected]>: > > > At 3 different conferences I've attended in 2014: CloudantCON 2014, > > OSCON 2014 and Velocity NYC 2014, I've been approached by people > > complaining about the CouchDB logo. The argument is that the logo looks > > like a man who is posed in a suggestive way, or as one person put it, > > "showing you his crotch and inviting you over." > > > > These were not lighthearted expressions of concern to me over drinks - > > they were heartfelt complaints from people who care about CouchDB and > > its image in the open source community. > > > > I must admit I didn't think it was an issue at first, but like the > > saying goes, once you've seen it, you can't un-see it. > > > > As a reminder here is our current logo: > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/couchdb-logo.png > > > > Or in SVG: > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/couchdb-logo.svg > > > > I'd like to propose improving the logo with a new drawing that keeps the > > same theme - red couch, reclining figure in white - but alters the pose > > to be a bit less suggestive. Other suggestions are welcome, naturally, > > but a redrawn current-style logo probably has the least objections. > > > > Of course, if we agree to such a change, I'll need your help. I can't > > draw, and I'm sure many of the rest of you can't either. If you're an > > artist, and you agree, would you consider posting an altered logo in > > reply to this thread that fixes the problem? > > > > You can find all of the source files (Adobe Illustrator) at: > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/ > > > > -Joan > > > > > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
