I think we can elect new committers. Currently we have 49 but most of them
have left the project long ago.
https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?mesos

czw., 18 lut 2021 o 18:18 Charles-François Natali <cf.nat...@gmail.com>
napisał(a):

> Speaking as someone who contributed a few patches and would like to get
> more involved, I find it a bit difficult to get MRs reviewed and merged.
> I think it's probably because the current committers have other priorities
> now that D2iQ focus has shifted, which is understandable but makes it
> harder for outsiders to contribute.
> Is there anything which could be done about that?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 14:30 Qian Zhang, <zhq527...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vinod,
>>
>> I am still interested in the project. As other folks said, we need to
>> have a direction for the project. I think there are still a lot of Mesos
>> users/customers in the mail list, can you please send another mail to
>> collect their requirements / pain points on Mesos, and then we can try to
>> set up a roadmap for the project to move forward.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Qian Zhang
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:16 PM Andrei Sekretenko <asekrete...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IIUC, Attic is not intended for projects which still have active users
>>> and thus might be in need of fixing bugs.
>>>
>>> Key items about moving project to Attic:
>>> > It is not intended to:
>>> > - Rebuild community
>>> > - Make bugfixes
>>> > - Make releases
>>>
>>> >Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have
>>> no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to the
>>> board are all good candidates for the Attic.
>>>
>>> As a D2iQ employee, I can say that if we find a bug critical for our
>>> customers, we will be interested in fixing that. Should the project be
>>> moved into Attic, the fix will be present only in forks (which might
>>> mean our internal forks).
>>>
>>> I could imagine that other entities and people using Mesos are in a
>>> similar position with regards to bugfixes.
>>> If this is true, then moving the project to Attic in the near future
>>> is not a proper solution to the issue of insufficient bandwidth of the
>>> active PMC members/chair.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> A long-term future of the project is a different story, which, in my
>>> personal view, will "end" either in moving the project into Attic or
>>> in shifting the project direction from what it used to be in the
>>> recent few years to something substantially different. IMO, this
>>> requires a  _separate_ discussion.
>>>
>>> Damien's questions sound like a good starting point for that
>>> discussion, I'll try to answer them from my committer/PMC member
>>> perspective when I have enough time.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 12:49, Charles-François Natali
>>> <cf.nat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Tomek, that's what I suspected.
>>> > It would therefore make it much more difficult for anyone to carry on
>>> since it would effectively have to be a fork, etc.
>>> > I think it'd be a bit of a shame, but I understand Benjamin's point.
>>> > I hope it can be avoided.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 11:02 Tomek Janiszewski, <jani...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Moving to attic is making project read only
>>> >> https://attic.apache.org/
>>> >> https://attic.apache.org/projects/aurora.html
>>> >>
>>> >> czw., 18 lut 2021, 11:56 użytkownik Charles-François Natali <
>>> cf.nat...@gmail.com> napisał:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm not familiar with the attic but would it still allow to actually
>>> >>> develop, make commits to the repository etc?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 08:27 Benjamin Bannier, <bbann...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Hi Vinod,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > I would like to start a discussion around the future of the Mesos
>>> >>> > project.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > As you are probably aware, the number of active committers and
>>> >>> > contributors
>>> >>> > > to the project have declined significantly over time. As of
>>> today,
>>> >>> > there's
>>> >>> > > no active development of any features or a public release
>>> planned. On the
>>> >>> > > flip side, I do know there are a few companies who are still
>>> actively
>>> >>> > using
>>> >>> > > Mesos.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks for starting this discussion Vinod. Looking at Slack,
>>> mailing
>>> >>> > lists, JIRA and reviewboard/github the project has wound down a
>>> lot in
>>> >>> > the last 12+ months.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > Given that, we need to assess if there's interest in the
>>> community to
>>> >>> > keep
>>> >>> > > this project moving forward. Specifically, we need some active
>>> committers
>>> >>> > > and PMC members who are going to manage the project. Ideally,
>>> these would
>>> >>> > > be people who are using Mesos in some capacity and can make code
>>> >>> > > contributions.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > While I have seen a few non-committer folks contribute patches in
>>> the
>>> >>> > last months, I feel it might be too late to bootstrap an active
>>> >>> > community at this point.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Apache Mesos is still mentioned prominently in the docs of a
>>> number of
>>> >>> > other projects which gives off the impression of an active and
>>> >>> > maintained project. In reality almost nobody is working on issues
>>> or
>>> >>> > available to help users, and basing a new project on Apache Mesos
>>> these
>>> >>> > days is probably not a good idea. I honestly do not see that to
>>> change
>>> >>> > should new people step up and IMO the most honest way forward
>>> would be
>>> >>> > to move the project to the attic to clearly communicate that the
>>> project
>>> >>> > has moved into another phase; this wouldn't preclude folks from
>>> using or
>>> >>> > further developing Apache Mesos, but would give a clear signal to
>>> users.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > If there is no active interest, we will likely need to figure
>>> out steps
>>> >>> > for
>>> >>> > > retiring the project.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > *Call for action: If you are interested in becoming a
>>> committer/PMC
>>> >>> > member
>>> >>> > > (including PMC chair) and actively maintain the project, please
>>> reply to
>>> >>> > > this email.*
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Like I wrote above, I would be in favor of a vote to move Apache
>>> Mesos
>>> >>> > to the attic.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Cheers,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Benjamin
>>> >>> >
>>>
>>

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