When I read the help forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ , I tend to see the same thing. People are complaining about the developers (How could they *possibly* allow something like this to happen?!?!?) or ease of use (I should have to go through *all this* to get it to work! Ubuntu sucks!). Usually someone chimes in and says something to the effect of: "Ubuntu is free software. You're not in much of a position to complain about something when you're getting it for free."

Tim Ruppert wrote:
I just wanted to move this topic to something that would be less related to one particular topic and more related to what appears to be a deteriorating tone in the user community.

As everyone knows, there is a A LOT of work constantly going on around the user & dev communities here at OFBiz - and thanks to this we're starting to see a bunch of new, potential "power" users coming into the fold - which is exactly what this community needs. When I take a step back from what is going on in my regular work life and concentrate on the mailing lists, my personal opinion is that there is a lot of baggin' on OFBiz going on around here! Most of the people around here are experienced developers who have worked on a number of different open source projects, so I guess I'm a little surprised by where things appear to be heading. Without going into specifics and calling individual people out on the carpet, I would like to have everyone just think about these things:

1. All committers and experienced OFBiz developers are all working towards the same goal - to better the project. 2. When you're not finding something that you need, it's much more effective to ask where things are found - rather than criticize the current set up. 3. If something you want is not available, you can either head a group that wants to develop / document it, develop it yourself, or get someone more experienced in OFBiz to champion your cause. 4. If you NEED something committed back into OFBiz and are on a strict timeline, build in a small amount of funds to get a committer to look at it. Often times people are too busy with paying work to look over EVERYTHING - cash can, at times change priorities for everyone. This is not to imply that being a committer is a paying gig - just that if your stuff is a priority more for you than the community, this can help. 5. It's far less stressful to try to get what you want than it is to be right! What I mean by this, is think about what you're saying and how you're saying it. It can go a long way towards getting you what you really want.


Anyways, thanks for listening and I hope this helps people start to structure their requests & needs in a way that motivates people to help them. We need everyone to come in and be productive community members so that we can all work more efficiently - let's see what we can do to rally around the project!

Cheers,
Tim
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