Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please
send me links I could not find them?

Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we
have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users.

Sam


On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote:
> here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run.
> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET
> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false
> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
> 
> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET
> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false
> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
> 
> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET
> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false
> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
> 
> considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am
> guessing to go through ofbiz once.
> 
> since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take
> some time to move up in ranking.
> as we continue to add content google will move it up.
> 
> that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is
> changing every few days.
> 
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> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM:
>> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own
>> demo server
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Sam Hamilton" <[email protected]>
>>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages
>>>
>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main
>>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are
>>>> logged in.
>>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM:
>>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into
>>>>> OFBiz
>>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in).
>>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do
>>>>>> parse the
>>>>>> Help in the Demo
>>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo.
>>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz.
>>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send
>>>>>> someone to
>>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================
>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com>
>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo
>>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local
>>>>>>> deployment of
>>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org
>>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for
>>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> have created?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz
>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo.
>>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things.
>>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz
>>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so,
>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =========================
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>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
>>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to
>>>>>>>>> clean up
>>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been
>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on
>>>>>>>>> groups [1]
>>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way
>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or
>>>>>>>>> if we
>>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or
>>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has
>>>>>>>>> moved
>>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] -
>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions
>>>>>>>>> [2] -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [3] -
>>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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