I do a lot of google to find things.
what i find is that unless I am pretty close the hits do no show up in
the first few pages. and I am amazed of the pages I don't find in google
from the wiki. They get posted in the ML or I stumble on them by mistake.
google SEO has changed over the years.
the main key to getting ranking is page modification.
or Adding content.
to answer your question, if Docbooks can run on apache httpd, then it is
a simple script to copy what is in the svn to website, like we use to
do, and still do for DTD's (xsd).
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Sam Hamilton sent the following on 9/2/2010 12:22 AM:
Hi Guys,
I have been thinking about this indexing problem - do you think its possible to
build something like http://help.eclipse.org/ but at
http://ofbiz.apache.org/help/ or suitable location outside the demo sites - I
still think that google is having too hard a time getting into the demos? I am
right in assuming that the eclipse help site is built on DocBook?
We could replicate DocBook files between the two locations so that both a
locally installed OFBiz user and someone googling for some information have it
at their finger tips?
Sam
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google gets past the SSL problem
I have the same situation with my demo, since I have not yet got my
certs put back in.
Just like if you go to a site that the browser warns you, as long as the
brower is not restarted you can bypass the warning and continue to see
the site as normal.
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Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/30/2010 2:45 AM:
Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please
send me links I could not find them?
Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we
have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users.
Sam
On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote:
here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run.
66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET
/catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false
HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
+http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET
/catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false
HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
+http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET
/catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false
HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1;
+http://www.google.com/bot.html)"
considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am
guessing to go through ofbiz once.
since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take
some time to move up in ranking.
as we continue to add content google will move it up.
that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is
changing every few days.
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Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM:
Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own
demo server
Jacques
From: "Sam Hamilton"<[email protected]>
I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main
pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N
On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote:
for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are
logged in.
they have the login string in all their subsequent searches.
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Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM:
Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into
OFBiz
(this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in).
Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it?
2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[email protected]>
I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do
parse the
Help in the Demo
I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo.
two it will show off the help system in ofbiz.
Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send
someone to
the proper place in ofbiz.
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Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM:
Hi BJ,
My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and
then
rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo
OFBiz.
I love the idea of having all the documents within a local
deployment of
OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that
they
are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org
which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for
OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page
that
you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts
people
have created?
Sam
On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote:
What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz
help
system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo.
this would accomplish a couple of things.
1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz
2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so,
though
I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz.
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Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM:
Hi Guys,
I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to
clean up
and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been
upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on
groups [1]
so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way
and the
ones that are open can also be open all within the same space.
There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or
if we
want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we
could
either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or
otherwise
keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has
moved
and give a link to the new page URL.
[1] -
http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions
[2] -
http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another
[3] -
https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro
Sam
