Hi Guys, I have been thinking about this indexing problem - do you think its possible to build something like http://help.eclipse.org/ but at http://ofbiz.apache.org/help/ or suitable location outside the demo sites - I still think that google is having too hard a time getting into the demos? I am right in assuming that the eclipse help site is built on DocBook?
We could replicate DocBook files between the two locations so that both a locally installed OFBiz user and someone googling for some information have it at their finger tips? Sam -----Original Message----- From: "BJ Freeman" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 30 August, 2010 18:01 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Confluence Space Merge google gets past the SSL problem I have the same situation with my demo, since I have not yet got my certs put back in. Just like if you go to a site that the browser warns you, as long as the brower is not restarted you can bypass the warning and continue to see the site as normal. ========================= BJ Freeman <http://bjfreeman.elance.com> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/30/2010 2:45 AM: > Hi BJ - did you spot the docbook pages in Goggle? If so can you please > send me links I could not find them? > > Thinking about this more I bet Goggle does not like SSL warnings like we > have on the demo sites - bad user experience for non-technical users. > > Sam > > > On 30/08/2010 17:15, BJ Freeman wrote: >> here is a few lines from my access log for the demo I run. >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:00:36 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=SystemV%2FPST8PDT&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:03:27 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Asia%2FGaza&ProductKeywordsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductCategoryProductsPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> 66.249.67.71 - - [30/Aug/2010:00:05:02 -0700] "GET >> /catalog/control/checkLogin/main?tzId=Europe%2FTirane&ProductBrowseCatalogsPanel_collapsed=false&ProductBrowseCategoriesPanel_collapsed=false >> HTTP/1.1" 200 5768 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; >> +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" >> >> considering all the links and combination it would take a month, I am >> guessing to go through ofbiz once. >> >> since help is relatively new (less than a year) I expect it will take >> some time to move up in ranking. >> as we continue to add content google will move it up. >> >> that is the reason the ofbiz Catalog is #3, the revision number is >> changing every few days. >> >> ========================= >> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >> >> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/30/2010 12:17 AM: >>> Yes that sounds logical and is also what I have seen when I had my own >>> demo server >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Sam Hamilton"<[email protected]> >>>> I have had a quick search and don't see Google indexing the help pages >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/+showHelp&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They are indexing the demo site but it seems only the /control/main >>>> pages and the /ecommerce pages as its not password protected. >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org&hl=en&safe=off&ei=cAB7TIaXBcOrccP0zd4F&start=0&sa=N >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/08/2010 03:29, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>> for the demo's the spiders start from the main ofbiz page so are >>>>> logged in. >>>>> they have the login string in all their subsequent searches. >>>>> >>>>> ========================= >>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>> >>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 8/29/2010 11:18 AM: >>>>>> Actually to access the online help it is necessary to be logged into >>>>>> OFBiz >>>>>> (this is why I recently hided the help icon when not logged in). >>>>>> Will the search engine spiders be able to scan it? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/29 BJ Freeman<[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I had to check on my demo to verify that the Search engines do >>>>>>> parse the >>>>>>> Help in the Demo >>>>>>> I see is good in two ways. One it will drive people to the demo. >>>>>>> two it will show off the help system in ofbiz. >>>>>>> Thought occurs to me we need to add links in the help to send >>>>>>> someone to >>>>>>> the proper place in ofbiz. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< >>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/28/2010 7:52 PM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi BJ, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only worry about that is getting the search engines to index and >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> rank the information if the only copy of the data is in the demo >>>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love the idea of having all the documents within a local >>>>>>>> deployment of >>>>>>>> OFBiz but do you think its possible to copy them (imagining that >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> are DocBook format or the such) and have a copy on ofbiz.apache.org >>>>>>>> which would then hopefully give visibility on the search engines for >>>>>>>> OFBiz searches - how many times have you searched for a wiki page >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you know exists but can't find it over all the other blog posts >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> have created? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29/08/2010 08:48, BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is the User Docs get migrated to the ofbiz >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> system and links in the wiki reference the help in the Trunk-Demo. >>>>>>>>> this would accomplish a couple of things. >>>>>>>>> 1)ofbiz could support it own user docs, in ofbiz >>>>>>>>> 2)those that want to expand on their own distribution can do so, >>>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>>> I would hope they would provide the same back to ofbiz. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ========================= >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman<http://bjfreeman.elance.com> >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation >>>>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man >>>>>>>>> Sam Hamilton sent the following on 8/26/2010 8:54 PM: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up again trying to organise an effort to >>>>>>>>>> clean up >>>>>>>>>> and better arrange our wiki spaces. Now that Confluence has been >>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 3.2 we can now restrict access to pages based on >>>>>>>>>> groups [1] >>>>>>>>>> so that the pages that should not be edited can stay that way >>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>> ones that are open can also be open all within the same space. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are methods for moving pages from the space to space [2] or >>>>>>>>>> if we >>>>>>>>>> want to leave a redirect from the old page to the new page then we >>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> either request a macro to be installed in Confluence [3] or >>>>>>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>> keep the old space and just write a note saying the content has >>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>> and give a link to the new page URL. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] - >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Page+Restrictions >>>>>>>>>> [2] - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF32/Moving+a+family+of+pages+from+one+space+to+another >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [3] - >>>>>>>>>> https://www.adaptavist.com/display/AtlassianConfluence/redirect+macro >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
