Hi,

This could be very confusing to many languages, especially to RTL, non Latin and languages that do not have capital letters as putting such note (Captcha consist of English letters 'A' - 'Z' only) will not be vary understandable for them ('A'  -'Z' would seem to them as 'a' - 'z') as they do not have the concept of capital letters even if they do have the Latin keyboard installed.

Ali

On 12/4/20 8:39 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English letters 'A' - 'Z' only ....

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear Friends,

    My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem
    with using Latin letters in the captcha.

    My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that
    the characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small
    l.  Or capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often,
    the letters are sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not
    only to Robot, but also to Robert and other humans to
    distinguish.  As a result, several captchas are often needed till
    a person can get it.

    Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
    patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the
    time pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to
    connect only in the very last minute, that's a separate question)...

    Thank you.
    Robert


    On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine
        alphabet by language
        the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet ....

        start and end character can be manually specified here
        
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml


        Another option might be to made this range _optional_
        so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified ....
        Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ...

        but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((

        @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha?


        On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            We can write the language name on the 'new user' or
            'change password'
            screens ...

            On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
            > It is definitely can be localized
            > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing
            the text
            > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in
            English but the
            > text will not be equal :((
            >
            > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it?
            >>
            >>
            
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha
            >>
            >>
            >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
            >>
            >> Any more votes?
            >>
            >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
            >>
            >> I am with it :-)
            >>
            >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
            >>
            >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be
            enough votes for it
            >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it
            >>
            >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-)
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
            >>>
            >>> Well,
            >>>
            >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements"
            >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty'
            again" ....
            >>>
            >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special
            characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users
            like ours :-)
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
            >>>>
            >>>> Hello Robert,
            >>>>
            >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >>>>> Dear Maxim,
            >>>>>
            >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the
            password? The images are often difficult to read, and many
            users have to reset the captcha image a few times, till
            they finally get it.
            >>>>>
            >>>>> Thank you.
            >>>>> Robert
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
            >>>>>> Hello all,
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of
            OPENMEETINGS-2190)
            >>>>>> Could you please  take a look at demo-next and tell
            me WDYT?
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow?
            >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :)
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>> --
            >>>>>> Best regards,
            >>>>>> Maxim
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>> --
            >>>> Best regards,
            >>>> Maxim
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> --
            >>> Best regards,
            >>> Maxim
            >>
            >>
            >> --
            >> Best regards,
            >> Maxim
            >
            >



-- Best regards,
        Maxim



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Best regards,
Maxim

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