Well,
the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it
(upgrade might be an issue here ...)

Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to every
language here
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages

site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
WDYT?

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our
> friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:
>
> "terrific" means "wonderful"
>
> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!
>
> English is a fun language.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English letters
>>> 'A' - 'Z' only ....
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>
>>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with
>>>> using Latin letters in the captcha.
>>>>
>>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the
>>>> characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
>>>> capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters are
>>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but also to
>>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several captchas are
>>>> often needed till a person can get it.
>>>>
>>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have patience,
>>>> highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time pressure to
>>>> enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in the very last
>>>> minute, that's a separate question)...
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine alphabet
>>>>> by language
>>>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet ....
>>>>>
>>>>> start and end character can be manually specified here
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_
>>>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified ....
>>>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ...
>>>>>
>>>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((
>>>>>
>>>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change password'
>>>>>> screens ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> > It is definitely can be localized
>>>>>> > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text
>>>>>> > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English but the
>>>>>> > text will not be equal :((
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Any more votes?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I am with it :-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough votes
>>>>>> for it
>>>>>> >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Well,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements"
>>>>>> >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty' again" ....
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special
>>>>>> characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users like ours :-)
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hello Robert,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> Dear Maxim,
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the password?
>>>>>> The images are often difficult to read, and many users have to reset the
>>>>>> captcha image a few times, till they finally get it.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> >>>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of OPENMEETINGS-2190)
>>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please  take a look at demo-next and tell me WDYT?
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow?
>>>>>> >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :)
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> >>>> Maxim
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>>> >>> Maxim
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>>> >> Maxim
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

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