Hi Christian, Very interesting points you stated.
Taking into account the non-technical users I had in mind for the feature that originated this thread: - [...] *having to use a hierarchy you are not familiar with *[...]. IMHO non technical users are just half-familiar with file system hierarchies, despite being those around for decades now... My impression is that they have "read only" access... I mean, lots of non-technical users are usually capable of [erratic] moving along a folder structure they are given, but not proficient at all when it comes to create/structure it. This degenerates in chaotic organization what in turn degenerates in not finding things (media stuff, basically) what degenerates in not using things... - The first part of the second point ([...] *spill all files just in there in a big mess* [...]) I think the situation you depicted is exactly what happens with the media I am proposing to automatically organize on the fly. But about the second one (systems text search, searching facilities...), most non-technical users don't even know they exist (yet many of them are really powerful, find, grep or Windows file search in the graphical interface). The only attemp I have seen so far about indexing / search personal contents is preppending alphabet letters to file / folder names... Pretty ugly and ineffective even for non-technical users. It just so happens that for a number of people (non-technical and technical users too) and for certain contents that are pretty common nowadays, time based hierarchies are meaningful and automatically creating them looks feasible, so the non-technical won't need the "write access" they are still lacking (IMHO) and tech users will just have the option to offload the effort of their discipline in the platform and get things tidy in an intuitive way "for free". What are the views on this? Thank you very much for your time and opinion!!! 2015-03-24 13:13 GMT+01:00 Christian Reiner <[email protected]>: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tuesday 24 March 2015 11:20:32 Thomas Mayer wrote: > > Francisco Carriedo Scher schrieb am 22.03.2015 19:37: > > > (use something like tags and metadata to categorize content) > > [...] > > b) Hierarchical data organisation is not working for you. To anyone, > > who still thinks, hierarchical structures are best for their uses: Do > > you use the Yahoo or Lycos or Altavista link catalogue or do you just > > use a search engine like Google or DuckDuckGo? Do link catalogues still > > exist? > I doubt that really is a statement about hierarchies themselves. To me this > sounds more like an issue with having to use a hierarchy you are not > familiar > with. > Thinking into the other direction: when you save files into your home > directory, did you ever create a subdirectory? Why? Why did you not spill > all > files just in there in a big mess and user your systems full text search or > whatever search engine? > > Christian Reiner (arkascha) > _______________________________________________ > User mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/user >
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