Mailreader is for developers, not for people from marketing
department. It is not supposed to be beautiful, it is supposed to show
how common tasks are done with Struts: data in, processing, data out.
How it is presented is not that important. I mean it is important that
a framework can generate lists or comboboxes or trees (can Struts
generate trees?). But the actual styling is of less importance. One
just needs to know can he change the style and how easy.

I think that JSF should work better with XHTML/CSS-style web
development. Spit out a generic list or table in a DIV and apply
external CSS to it. It should be as simple as that. One can visit CSS
Zen Garden for examples of how cool XHTML can look like.

Michael.

On 1/11/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would agree, except for the fact that MailReader is not by any measure
> an impressive application (sufficient yes, but not impressive)... in the
> context of JSF (and Shale), where at least part of the point is to
> enable easily building more advanced types of applications (that *IS*
> part of the point, right?!?), I don't think it would do justice to the
> technologies its demoing.  I mean, we wouldn't want anyone to think the
> best JSF can do is MailReader, would we?? :)  (even me, who isn't
> exactly a JSF booster, wouldn't find that fair)
>
> Frank
>
> Craig McClanahan wrote:
> > On 1/11/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>My major complaint is that every single example and tutorial I've found is
> >>so simplistic and frankly ugly as hell that it can't help but cast JSF in
> >>a bad light
> >
> >
> >
> > Sure sounds a lot like a canonical example program that's been around here
> > for a few years ... Struts MailReader :-).

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