>> I don't think the final chapter in the "will JSF >> succeed or fail" book has been written yet
You don't have "Will JSF Success or Fail in Action" by Manning? --- "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know *many* people who have and are coming to the same conclusion as > your unnamed guru. > > HOWEVER, to be fair about it, there are just as many people with exactly > the opposite opinion. I don't think the final chapter in the "will JSF > succeed or fail" book has been written yet, and there doesn't seem to be > a consensus on where it stands right now. > > Vendors and boosters will tell you its an unqualified success, but I for > one am not hearing the same thing from the people that have to actually > use it and decide between it and the alternatives. Just the opposite in > my experience. Now, maybe my contact network is limited and not giving > me an accurate picture. Then again, maybe it is giving me a PERFECTLY > accurate picture. I don't know which it is. > > Doesn't really matter. JSF is an ALTERNATIVE. As such, I'm glad it's > around. Whether it's ever the de facto standard in Java web development > or not, it's fleshing out new ideas. That in and of itself has got to > be viewed as a positive. You won't catch me jumping on the bandwagon > any time soon, but nor will I bid it a premature goodbye. I'll wait and > see, even though it's been this way for a while now. > > Frank > > Hey Nony Moose wrote: > > Paul Benedict wrote: > > > >> ... I am truly happy WebWork > >> is becoming Struts 2.0 because the action framework, imo, is > >> the only product that deserves the name "Struts" -- and Shale > >> should leave the repository for its own pastures. I can't escape > >> my perception of what Shale is (marketing campaign for JSF) and > >> so I don't think I'll be leaving my opinion behind soon. > >> > > now I'm certainly a nobody in the programming world, but I was talking > > with a somebody a few days ago (local j2ee guru, lead coder for some > > open source apps too - and no I'm not going to name him - that's his > > privacy respected - it was personal advice). i mentioned that i was > > using traditional struts and that perhaps i should get into jsf/shale, > > and he remarked "no, stick with core struts. in fact, if you can, move > > over to using the v2 / webwork version. jsf is not gaining momentum." > > gosh, now i'm both breaking the "cite your sources" maxim, and backing > > up some Dakota Jack leads (and I use an anon id!) ... this could get ugly! > > Moose on the Loose in the Hoose > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
