On 3/14/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think the final chapter in the "will JSF > succeed or fail" book has been written yet, and there doesn't seem to be > a consensus on where it stands right now.
>From an open source perspective, terms like "succeed" and "fail" have very different meanings. How many lurkers use a product isn't important. What's important is how many people are willing to put ego aside and collaborate on a product. Right now, we have volunteers who are ready, willing, and able to contribute to the Shale codebase. We also have volunteers contributing to Action and Action2. The reason these products all live at Struts is because the *people* who are building the products feel like we are all part of the same team. We share the same values, and we are trying to solve the same problems, even if we are solving them with different flavors of the same underlying technologies. It's not up to anyone else. It's up to the 15 members of the Apache Struts PMC, all of which have different employers, and all of which have an equal say. For us, it's not about branding or marketshare or any of that. It's about volunteer share. It's about which products that we, as engineeers, want to use to build our own applications. When people discuss our products, it's easy to miss the true point of an Apache project. It's not about creating technology, it's about *people* creating technologies. It's about real engineers working together to solve our own problems. If our solutions solve other people's problems too, that's great, but, for us, marketshare is not the point of the exercise. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]