On 3/14/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think the final chapter in the "will JSF
> succeed or fail" book has been written yet, and there doesn't seem to be
> a consensus on where it stands right now.

>From an open source perspective, terms like "succeed" and "fail" have
very different meanings. How many lurkers use a product isn't
important. What's important is how many people are willing to put ego
aside and collaborate on a product.

Right now, we have volunteers who are ready, willing, and able to
contribute to the Shale codebase. We also have volunteers contributing
to Action and Action2.

The reason these products all live at Struts is because the *people*
who are building the products feel like we are all part of the same
team. We share the same values, and we are trying to solve the same
problems, even if we are solving them with different flavors of the
same underlying technologies. It's not up to anyone else. It's up to
the 15 members of the Apache Struts PMC, all of which have different
employers, and all of which have an equal say.

For us, it's not about branding or marketshare or any of that. It's
about volunteer share. It's about which products that we, as
engineeers, want to use to build our own applications.

When people discuss our products, it's easy to miss the true point of
an Apache project. It's not about creating technology, it's about
*people* creating technologies. It's about real engineers working
together to solve our own problems. If our solutions solve other
people's problems too, that's great, but, for us, marketshare is not
the point of the exercise.

-Ted.

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