I fully understand Struts, Martin. Struts is fairly easy to understand. I work with code that makes Struts look like tinker toys. I also understand that Struts cannot be organized by the MVC paradigm and have discussed that at length many times on the list. Ted is right that only loose coupling with V --> C --> M is possible with web applications like Struts. I think about what I actually see on the list. I don't think about what you are claiming happens. I have complaints. Sorry if that offends you. I have more knowledge about software architecture and design than you will ever know, Martin. I have proposed alternatives. Unfortunately, the "committers" decided on alternatives which have failed. They have had to admit that but won't discuss it. That was the topic here, and you have avoided it too. Would you care to discuss that?
On 3/25/06, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Steven- > > A multi-threaded enterprise wide solution that is organised according to > true Model View Controller paradigm is NOT a pile of crap nor is anything > else you dont understand- > I would strongly suggest you think about all of the hard work and effort > that the commiters and people on this list put into the product which is > offered to us lowly developers > basically for free > In the meanwhile I would also strongly suggest you read everything you can > about Software Architecture and Design so that you will be able to propose > an alternative > but If you have no alternative then opening your ears and listening to > "how can we make our system more maintainable while accomodating enterpise > wide needs for our customers" > would be a constructive use of your time > > Martin- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Raeburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <user@struts.apache.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:33 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation > > > >I normally ignore your crap and I'm sorry for prolonging this agony for > >everyone. This really will be my last word. > > > > Michael, why do you continue to waste your time on such a "big pile of > > crap" as Struts? What kind of a fool must you be for using the world's > > worst web framework, run by a bunch on idiotic dictators? If you really > > believe that, then you are as big a loser as you appear to be. If you > > think you can do better, then fine, go do it. But please, quit whining > and > > doing nothing about it. Or do you just enjoy whining? > > > > Please. Get a life. > > > > Steve > > > > p.s. Don't bother addressing any reply to me. You'll just be pissing in > > the wind. > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > >> The fact is that there will not be an explanation for this failure. > >> While > >> sitting in the biggest pile of crap code one could imagine, they > continue > >> to > >> extoll their virtues as if they were about to be mentioned for an > >> honorarium > >> in computer history. > >> > >> <snip> > >> On 3/24/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Steve Raeburn wrote: > >>> > >>>> Bottom line is that this is the way Apache works and it's not going > to > >>>> change. > >>>> > >>> In any case, it is not a subject of legitimate debate at this point > that > >>> progress on the Struts framework stagnated. If you guys were doing > >>> everything right, then what is your explanation for that? > >>> > >>> Jonathan Revusky > >>> > >> > >> </snip> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > back." > >> ~Dakota Jack~ > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~
