And we go throught personnal attacks again.... On 3/30/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, Alexandre, do you think there are testing problems with Struts 1.x? Do > you think I have the obligation to teach the foundation of this well-known > fact to these folks? If you know the answer and you are so all-mighty, why > don't you take the reins? You are the troll. That is the fact. I have > said nothing personal. I have merely answered a question and when faced > with a followup declined to teach fundamental design issues. You are the > one being personal. I find it really laughable that crap like this is > supported by the committers and stuff like mine is treated as trolling. You > toadies to the process are the ones that always start this crap. The truth > is that you don't know shit. If you did, you would be all over this > question. Backward compatibility is never a reason to trash a product. You > go through a process of deprecation. > > On 3/30/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Don't bother about him Bart. I said it and I will say it again, he is > > a troll. I tried to have a constructive discussion with him several > > times. It always ends up in personal attacks (go read some books and > > come back...) but he is the one never backing up his claims. I am all > > for freedom of speech and CONSRUCTIVE CRITICISM but I think people > > have been REALLY tolerant with him. I can't count how many times he > > bashed Craig freely or any other commiters. It sounds like jalousy to > > me. Dakota, this list is owned by Apache and you are a guess here. It > > is not an absolute right. > > > > Honestly, I begin to think Shale should move to another place because > > the amount of noise on this list is terrible. I don't write a lot on > > this list but I do read it a lot and this noise is getting really out > > of control. Thank to 2 guys who have decided Apache doesn't fit their > > point of view and therefore anybody who don't think the same way are > > wrong . Here's a clue : you can take the code, evolve it and start > > your own community then quite BUGGING US with your childish fights > > since you will be so successful. > > > > By the way, for those who may believe those guys, Struts 1.x didn't > > not evolve as fast as WebWork for one reason : API Backward > > compatibilit, something very important to frameworks. This is one of > > the reason this community is so huge. Is it that hard to understand ? > > For instance, it has been well known since a long time that sending an > > HttpServletRequest's instance to actions was a bad idea and a neutral > > context object should have been used instead but it hasn't been > > changed to keep the API consistant. Hence the need for a version 2.0. > > WebWork technically already gots it right but always lacked (from what > > I heard) a big user community, something Struts has always enjoyed > > because of its commitment to backward compatibility. So both > > frameworks win in this merge especially given the strong competition > > coming from components-oriented frameworks. Technical excellence is > > not the only success factor. Only idealists think this way. > > > > On 3/30/06, Bart Busschots <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > > > > > >Dion, you are obviously really green. Please read a bit and then come > > > >back. Do you have any idea about architecture and design and testing > > > >issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an example of the kind of post this list could do without. The > > > above post basically boils down to: > > > > > > "you disagree with me so you must be uneducated, go read up some and > > > then come talk with the big boys" > > > > > > I'm sorry but that is just insulting and most un-helpful. Jack, please > > > explain your point of view so us mere > > > mortals can actually learn something rather than being all smug and > > > superior on people who dissagree with > > > you. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bart. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alexandre Poitras > > Québec, Canada > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." > ~Dakota Jack~ > >
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