Off topic, but AFAIK, Shale doesn't depend on any specific JSF
implementation.  It's goal is to "fill in the gaps" in the JSF
spec/framework for the user.

Don

On 12/19/06, robin bajaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi there,

May I ask a corollary question in this context.

What is the current status of Shale, is it build on top of SUN's JSF Ref.
Implementation or MyFaces
or Can I just use any JSF distro with Shale.

Thanks for your replies in advance,
regards
robin

On 12/19/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It isn't an either/or question.  You can use JSF actions, components,
> and configuration in a Struts 2 app, using the Struts 2 JSF Plugin.
> If you prefer an action-centric design, but want to use JSF
> components, then it is worth looking into.  If you want a pure JSF
> approach, especially if you have your eye on the JSF tools, then
> MyFaces or Shale would be worth looking at.
>
> See also: http://cwiki.apache.org/WW/javaserver-faces.html
>
> Don
>
> On 12/19/06, Piero Sartini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > the last days I've read a lot about web frameworks in java. And the more
> I
> > read, the more questions I have. Just writing this down, maybe someone
> has
> > some thoughts that can help me.
> >
> > My problem is simple, or lets say it should be simple: What webframework
> is a
> > good choice to start a new web application?
> >
> > After all, JSF seams to be popular, it is supported by big vendors and
> it is a
> > standard. My problem with JSF is that its way too basic in my eyes. It
> does
> > not give me best practices, its just there and says: "use me". But it
> does
> > not give me an idea how it is used best. But maybe I missed that. My
> feeling
> > is that its a core technology like jsp ... someone should build a
> framework
> > with it ...
> >
> > I am missing this "framework" around JSF that does speed up development.
> Is
> > shale meant to be this framework? It matured a lot since I last looked
> at it.
> > But for me, it looks like its not really accepted - maybe I am wrong. Is
> > shale what I am searching for?
> >
> > There is JBoss Seam. I don't want to use jboss AS and not sure if its
> the best
> > choice..
> >
> > I looked at struts2 and it "feels" like it could be what I searched for.
> There
> > is good documentation, many examples, an maven archetype, lots of users
> and
> > the possibility to use third party technologies like freemarker. But my
> > problem is that I am not sure if its not better to use JSF to be
> compatible
> > with future technologies. There are a lot of ajax-components for
> example, and
> > we can wait that a lot of third party libraries and tools will be
> > available...
> >
> > Is there a simple answer?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >         Piero
> >
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