> the truth is that cocoon is not (beginners-dev)-friendly
> because many parameters (the pipeline-approach, missing IDE, less debug
> tools)
>
> after 2 years here and with cocoon in production from the first 2.0rc is
>  still difficult for me to do something without to see an example.
>
> .. but i like cocoon and believe in cocoon power (thats the reason i'm
> here)

I'm also a beginner, after 1 year here.  I agree, Cocoon is a complex
tool, with a very steep learning curve that has given me some difficulty,
partly because of having to build from source.  But I see Cocoon as a work
in progress, and at the most as a framework rather than a finished product
so this has actually given me a bit of a better insight into what is going
on in my system.

I've also been able to give it a visual style IDE, and a fairly good set
of debug tools by mounting a Cocoon webapp folder in a NetBeans project. 
It seems to be seemless.  There are things happening over in
OpenOffice.org that seem to have the potential to give NetBeans and
therefore any mounted Cocoon project, a WYSIWIG XML document editor too if
you really want that.

Rod.



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