Le 23 juin 04, � 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
...You're right. My feeling is slightly different though. Context: I'm trying to tame Cocoon to make it useful for some lab exercises for our students...
FYI I've been using Cocoon successfully for teaching XML-based publishing: make a simple zip-file based install where people just need to install a JVM, a script which makes sure the right JVM is used to start Cocoon and you're set.
I've shown them just the bare minimum sitemap concepts, taught them XSLT essentials (using JEdit at first before moving to Cocoon, and *not* showing them for-each and xsl:choose to avoid slipping to procedural) and given minimal XSL-FO knowledge my students have been happily building simple multichannel web sites.
You're right that web applications quickly get more complicated, but have you looked at the "tour" block? I've used this tutorial successfully in half-day workshops to show the big picture of Cocoon to java programmers and they've been happy: I think it shows which functionality and blocks are more important and which ones one can just leave for later, just keeping in mind that they exist.
Just my two cents - with about 50 blocks in Cocoon today, I think the learning process needs to be focused on what people need at their level of knowledge, and a big part of the teacher's job is to keep them from losing themselves in this big playground.
-Bertrand
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