Yep,
but as I started this chain, I stated that my problem is to "convert" my own defined dynamic XML into HTML4 (or HTML5) forms. I was looking something to replace Cforms (not just plain XSLT). I am also considering to move to C3 because as I stated earlier, developing without tools is hard. If I could take e.g. NetBeans and continue with that, I would be better off in the long run.

I was considering Apache Wickets because some integration has been done with C3, but right now it doesn't seem to be a real option.

HTML5 is still hype from my point of view.


- mika -


18.2.2013 15:50, gelo1234 kirjoitti:
HTML5 in its basics is a superset of HTML4. If you don't use HTML5-specific tags/spec you go well with old good HTML4.

The original issue was NOT whether to use HTML5 or old HTML, but whether to use CForms or just raw XHTML/HTML (4 or 5) forms.

If you like to have HTML5 goodies in browsers that support it, just use e.g. Cocoon Actions in Sitemap OR Advanced Sitemap Matchers OR in REST-Controller by inspecting HTTP Headers return different Page that generate a different Content (with XSLT) for IE8.

Greetings,
-Greg


2013/2/18 Mika M Lehtonen <m...@digikartta.net <mailto:m...@digikartta.net>>

    Also HTML5 support for IE seems to be weak, even for IE9. There
    are still lot of people using IE8 or even older browser + lot of
    people in some sort of governmental offices using their own versions..
    We can't sell apps without IE-support, absolutely no way.

    http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/ie9/
    <http://people.mozilla.com/%7Eprouget/ie9/>

    - mika -


    18.2.2013 14:45, Robby Pelssers kirjoitti:

        The only thing I wonder about is...

        Cocoon and neither XSLT2.0 support html5 serialization for all
        I know.  So does someone using Cocoon already generate HTML5
        content with Cocoon and how did you accomplish this.

        Cheers,
        Robby

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Mika M Lehtonen [mailto:m...@digikartta.net
        <mailto:m...@digikartta.net>]
        Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:42 PM
        To: users@cocoon.apache.org <mailto:users@cocoon.apache.org>
        Subject: Re: from Cforms to Wicket

        Ok,
        thanks for your efforts. HTML5 it is, with or without C3.

        - mika -


        18.2.2013 14:25, Francesco Chicchiriccò kirjoitti:

            On 18/02/2013 13:09, Mika M Lehtonen wrote:

                Yeah,
                I know what you mean. Most of the Xforms sites are
                dated back to 2002
                or 2003.. Sounds like a standard having glorious
                future behind..

                This betterForm still sounded proper for my purposes
                because it
                actually implements server-side approache of Xforms.
                So I could use
                Xforms definition for producing HTML-forms, if I
                understood right. It
                actually resembles a lot of Cforms with a difference
                that it seems to
                be under development taking contemporary challenges
                into account.

            "under development" with latest release 4.1 dating 1 year
            back [1]

                But would I still need C3 (or C2.11 / C2.2)?

            It depends on you, and on how much effort do you want to
            put on this
            task.
            Anyway, not necessarily, even though Cocoon will help in
            you in the
            XML side if the job.

                I would like to get familiar with C3 if I only could
                figure out how
                to start.

                The biggest problem with C2.11, IMHO, was not having
                proper
                development tools to use. I ended up writing files
                with Notepad++.
                And I never realized how to do debugging..

            [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/betterform/files/

                18.2.2013 10:48, Francesco Chicchiriccò kirjoitti:

                    On 17/02/2013 21:57, Mika M Lehtonen wrote:

                        How about some XForms implementation like this
                        http://www.betterform.de?
                        Sounds promising..

                    I personally wouldn't bet much on XForms...

                    Regards.


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