Hi,

Using enRoute, I guess you want to have an executable jar. In that case, you don't need Karaf.

As an alternative, you can package your application as "pure" OSGi bundles (and eventually release), and deploy on Karaf or package with Karaf.

Packaging with Karaf will give you an execute archive.

Regarding log, you are right, Karaf provides a log service abstracting lot of different frameworks. The only thing you have to do is to import the package of the logging framework you are using (logback, slf4j, whatever).

Regards
JB

On 19/09/2018 15:15, Philipp Höfler wrote:
Hallo JB,

thanks for your kind reply.

I am getting confused :-)
I am quite new to the OSGi world, so my questions are probably very basic.

I am not sure, if I can use Karaf just like that, as I am using OSGi enRoute R7.
As far as I understood, it's not finally released yet? So I guess, that Karaf 
does it not support yet?

Anyhow, I tried to deploy my app on Karaf. And there are a lot of missing 
dependencies.
How is the best way of deploying a OSGi app? I've three bundles and each have 
different dependencies.
The packaged app jar, that is generated from the enRoute example project, packs 
all these dependencies in a jar folder of the app.jar
What I do not understand is, why dependencies like "org.osgi.framework" or 
"org.osgi.service.log" is missing. I though, that would be provided by Karaf?

I recently added logging via the new OSGi Logging standard and logback. I read 
on the Karaf website, that Karaf can already unify the logging configuration.
As I understood, logback is also trying to unify the configuration over all 
popular logging frameworks. Does it just work or do I have to adapt anything?

Thanks for your help,
Philipp

Am 19.09.18, 14:17 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net>:

     Hi Philip,
You can use Karaf as a container. It supports different programming
     model including OSGi of course.
Karaf supports Aries JMX and MBean whiteboard pattern to simplify the
     way of exposing your MBeans (it's just registering a MBean service).
Once done, you can use Karaf Decanter to collect the metrics and have
     monitoring/BAM/alerting.
Don't hesitate to ping me if you need more details. Regards
     JB
On 19/09/2018 12:34, Philipp Höfler wrote:
     > Hi,
     >
     > I've setup a small OSGi application.
     > The application gets some REST requests and forwards these requests to a 
content repository using CMIS.
     > So, basically the app consists of three bundles. The first bundle 
provides and RESTful webservice (HTTP Whiteboard), the second the CMIS connection 
to the repository and the third is the internal API between the other two bundles.
     >
     > Now, I am encountering performances problems. Storing documents to the 
repository, is quite slower than it should be.
     > I thought it would be a good idea, to monitor the application to 
identify the bottle necks.
     > That's why I would like to connect VisualVM (or JConsole) via JMX.
     >
     > Right now the application is not finished yet, so the deployment does 
not exists.
     > I am currently using the bundled app from the enRoute R7 example project 
for testing.
     >
     > Is it a realistic to use the bundled app for tests or is an application 
server like Karaf faster?
     > Is it possible to connect to the JMX of the bundled app? Would you 
recommend using Karaf (application server)?
     >
     > When you do recommend Karaf, how can I deploy my app to the application 
server?
     > Do I have to install every single bundle?
     >
     > As always, thanks for your help.
     > Philipp
     >
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