Hallo Ray, hallo JB,

thanks for your reply :-).

Maybe I have not clearly described the problem. I think you might have 
misunderstood it.
When compiling the application, the runable app.jar will be generated. This is 
working fine. All dependencies are in place and I can start it.

Unfortunately, I am facing performance issues. Probably, these are related to 
the CMIS connection, but I would like to find the bottle necks by monitoring 
the app.
My first approach was, to connect VisualVM to the packaged app. But - at least 
for me - it was not possible.

Then, I followed JB's suggestion to use Karaf. But I've problems to deploy the 
app to Karaf as I see missing dependencies.

I think I do not get the big picture here.
Based on JB's latest reply, I assume that with enRoute I do not have to use any 
container like Karaf?
enRoute is for building standalone apps?
When using the "classic" OSGi it would be necessary to use an container, right?

Is the runnable jar the way of deploying enRoute apps?
My understand was, that this is used for testing and it should be deployed to 
an application server / container like Karaf.

Best,
Philipp

Am 19.09.18, 15:31 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net>:

    Hi,
    
    Using enRoute, I guess you want to have an executable jar. In that case, 
    you don't need Karaf.
    
    As an alternative, you can package your application as "pure" OSGi 
    bundles (and eventually release), and deploy on Karaf or package with Karaf.
    
    Packaging with Karaf will give you an execute archive.
    
    Regarding log, you are right, Karaf provides a log service abstracting 
    lot of different frameworks. The only thing you have to do is to import 
    the package of the logging framework you are using (logback, slf4j, 
    whatever).
    
    Regards
    JB
    
    On 19/09/2018 15:15, Philipp Höfler wrote:
    > Hallo JB,
    > 
    > thanks for your kind reply.
    > 
    > I am getting confused :-)
    > I am quite new to the OSGi world, so my questions are probably very basic.
    > 
    > I am not sure, if I can use Karaf just like that, as I am using OSGi 
enRoute R7.
    > As far as I understood, it's not finally released yet? So I guess, that 
Karaf does it not support yet?
    > 
    > Anyhow, I tried to deploy my app on Karaf. And there are a lot of missing 
dependencies.
    > How is the best way of deploying a OSGi app? I've three bundles and each 
have different dependencies.
    > The packaged app jar, that is generated from the enRoute example project, 
packs all these dependencies in a jar folder of the app.jar
    > What I do not understand is, why dependencies like "org.osgi.framework" 
or "org.osgi.service.log" is missing. I though, that would be provided by Karaf?
    > 
    > I recently added logging via the new OSGi Logging standard and logback. I 
read on the Karaf website, that Karaf can already unify the logging 
configuration.
    > As I understood, logback is also trying to unify the configuration over 
all popular logging frameworks. Does it just work or do I have to adapt 
anything?
    > 
    > Thanks for your help,
    > Philipp
    > 
    > Am 19.09.18, 14:17 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net>:
    > 
    >      Hi Philip,
    >      
    >      You can use Karaf as a container. It supports different programming
    >      model including OSGi of course.
    >      
    >      Karaf supports Aries JMX and MBean whiteboard pattern to simplify the
    >      way of exposing your MBeans (it's just registering a MBean service).
    >      
    >      Once done, you can use Karaf Decanter to collect the metrics and have
    >      monitoring/BAM/alerting.
    >      
    >      Don't hesitate to ping me if you need more details.
    >      
    >      Regards
    >      JB
    >      
    >      On 19/09/2018 12:34, Philipp Höfler wrote:
    >      > Hi,
    >      >
    >      > I've setup a small OSGi application.
    >      > The application gets some REST requests and forwards these 
requests to a content repository using CMIS.
    >      > So, basically the app consists of three bundles. The first bundle 
provides and RESTful webservice (HTTP Whiteboard), the second the CMIS 
connection to the repository and the third is the internal API between the 
other two bundles.
    >      >
    >      > Now, I am encountering performances problems. Storing documents to 
the repository, is quite slower than it should be.
    >      > I thought it would be a good idea, to monitor the application to 
identify the bottle necks.
    >      > That's why I would like to connect VisualVM (or JConsole) via JMX.
    >      >
    >      > Right now the application is not finished yet, so the deployment 
does not exists.
    >      > I am currently using the bundled app from the enRoute R7 example 
project for testing.
    >      >
    >      > Is it a realistic to use the bundled app for tests or is an 
application server like Karaf faster?
    >      > Is it possible to connect to the JMX of the bundled app? Would you 
recommend using Karaf (application server)?
    >      >
    >      > When you do recommend Karaf, how can I deploy my app to the 
application server?
    >      > Do I have to install every single bundle?
    >      >
    >      > As always, thanks for your help.
    >      > Philipp
    >      >
    >      >
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