I added gogo for good measure to help diagnosing issues.

Aries JMX has this weird requirement that someone has to provide the
MBeanService service, which I did for you.

- Ray

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:19 AM Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com>
wrote:

> I just sent a PR to your osgi-test repo adding JMX.
>
> Also, enRoute was most certainly not limited to desktop apps.
>
> In fact there are several consumers using it specifically for
> "microservices" story.
>
> - Ray
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:12 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think you can achieve this with enRoute (even if I would not do that
>> way personnally).
>>
>> As it seems you want to do kind of integration, I would evaluate using
>> Apache Camel routes running Karaf.
>> Camel is an integration framework that allow you to easily integrate
>> system all together.
>>
>> Let me know if you need some details (you can ping me directly on my
>> e-mail to avoid to "flood" the Felix mailing list).
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 19/09/2018 16:06, Philipp Höfler wrote:
>> > Thanks, it is getting clearer to me.
>> > Would you recommend using enRoute for a server application translating
>> rest requests to CMIS?
>> > Now with these information, it feels like enRoute was built for desktop
>> standalone apps not for server applications?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Philipp
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 19.09.18, 15:44 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net>:
>> >
>> >      Hi Philip,
>> >
>> >      For Karaf, you probably have to install the dependency bundles
>> first.
>> >
>> >      Using enRoute, it creates an "uber" jar embedding all jar files
>> required
>> >      for execution. You don't need a container: it's a regular
>> standalone jar
>> >      application that you run with java -jar.
>> >
>> >      Karaf uses a modular approach where your bundles are very light,
>> and you
>> >      install dependency bundles in Karaf (that other bundles can use).
>> That's
>> >      why we have Karaf Features to install all in a row.
>> >
>> >      So, if you are interested by Karaf, I can help you to create a
>> Karaf
>> >      feature for your application or at least provide the commands you
>> should
>> >      do to install the dependency bundles.
>> >
>> >      Regards
>> >      JB
>> >
>> >      On 19/09/2018 15:38, Philipp Höfler wrote:
>> >      > Hallo Ray, hallo JB,
>> >      >
>> >      > thanks for your reply :-).
>> >      >
>> >      > Maybe I have not clearly described the problem. I think you
>> might have misunderstood it.
>> >      > When compiling the application, the runable app.jar will be
>> generated. This is working fine. All dependencies are in place and I can
>> start it.
>> >      >
>> >      > Unfortunately, I am facing performance issues. Probably, these
>> are related to the CMIS connection, but I would like to find the bottle
>> necks by monitoring the app.
>> >      > My first approach was, to connect VisualVM to the packaged app.
>> But - at least for me - it was not possible.
>> >      >
>> >      > Then, I followed JB's suggestion to use Karaf. But I've problems
>> to deploy the app to Karaf as I see missing dependencies.
>> >      >
>> >      > I think I do not get the big picture here.
>> >      > Based on JB's latest reply, I assume that with enRoute I do not
>> have to use any container like Karaf?
>> >      > enRoute is for building standalone apps?
>> >      > When using the "classic" OSGi it would be necessary to use an
>> container, right?
>> >      >
>> >      > Is the runnable jar the way of deploying enRoute apps?
>> >      > My understand was, that this is used for testing and it should
>> be deployed to an application server / container like Karaf.
>> >      >
>> >      > Best,
>> >      > Philipp
>> >      >
>> >      > Am 19.09.18, 15:31 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <
>> j...@nanthrax.net>:
>> >      >
>> >      >      Hi,
>> >      >
>> >      >      Using enRoute, I guess you want to have an executable jar.
>> In that case,
>> >      >      you don't need Karaf.
>> >      >
>> >      >      As an alternative, you can package your application as
>> "pure" OSGi
>> >      >      bundles (and eventually release), and deploy on Karaf or
>> package with Karaf.
>> >      >
>> >      >      Packaging with Karaf will give you an execute archive.
>> >      >
>> >      >      Regarding log, you are right, Karaf provides a log service
>> abstracting
>> >      >      lot of different frameworks. The only thing you have to do
>> is to import
>> >      >      the package of the logging framework you are using
>> (logback, slf4j,
>> >      >      whatever).
>> >      >
>> >      >      Regards
>> >      >      JB
>> >      >
>> >      >      On 19/09/2018 15:15, Philipp Höfler wrote:
>> >      >      > Hallo JB,
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > thanks for your kind reply.
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > I am getting confused :-)
>> >      >      > I am quite new to the OSGi world, so my questions are
>> probably very basic.
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > I am not sure, if I can use Karaf just like that, as I am
>> using OSGi enRoute R7.
>> >      >      > As far as I understood, it's not finally released yet? So
>> I guess, that Karaf does it not support yet?
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > Anyhow, I tried to deploy my app on Karaf. And there are
>> a lot of missing dependencies.
>> >      >      > How is the best way of deploying a OSGi app? I've three
>> bundles and each have different dependencies.
>> >      >      > The packaged app jar, that is generated from the enRoute
>> example project, packs all these dependencies in a jar folder of the app.jar
>> >      >      > What I do not understand is, why dependencies like
>> "org.osgi.framework" or "org.osgi.service.log" is missing. I though, that
>> would be provided by Karaf?
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > I recently added logging via the new OSGi Logging
>> standard and logback. I read on the Karaf website, that Karaf can already
>> unify the logging configuration.
>> >      >      > As I understood, logback is also trying to unify the
>> configuration over all popular logging frameworks. Does it just work or do
>> I have to adapt anything?
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > Thanks for your help,
>> >      >      > Philipp
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      > Am 19.09.18, 14:17 schrieb "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <
>> j...@nanthrax.net>:
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      Hi Philip,
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      You can use Karaf as a container. It supports
>> different programming
>> >      >      >      model including OSGi of course.
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      Karaf supports Aries JMX and MBean whiteboard
>> pattern to simplify the
>> >      >      >      way of exposing your MBeans (it's just registering a
>> MBean service).
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      Once done, you can use Karaf Decanter to collect the
>> metrics and have
>> >      >      >      monitoring/BAM/alerting.
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      Don't hesitate to ping me if you need more details.
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      Regards
>> >      >      >      JB
>> >      >      >
>> >      >      >      On 19/09/2018 12:34, Philipp Höfler wrote:
>> >      >      >      > Hi,
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      > I've setup a small OSGi application.
>> >      >      >      > The application gets some REST requests and
>> forwards these requests to a content repository using CMIS.
>> >      >      >      > So, basically the app consists of three bundles.
>> The first bundle provides and RESTful webservice (HTTP Whiteboard), the
>> second the CMIS connection to the repository and the third is the internal
>> API between the other two bundles.
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      > Now, I am encountering performances problems.
>> Storing documents to the repository, is quite slower than it should be.
>> >      >      >      > I thought it would be a good idea, to monitor the
>> application to identify the bottle necks.
>> >      >      >      > That's why I would like to connect VisualVM (or
>> JConsole) via JMX.
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      > Right now the application is not finished yet, so
>> the deployment does not exists.
>> >      >      >      > I am currently using the bundled app from the
>> enRoute R7 example project for testing.
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      > Is it a realistic to use the bundled app for tests
>> or is an application server like Karaf faster?
>> >      >      >      > Is it possible to connect to the JMX of the
>> bundled app? Would you recommend using Karaf (application server)?
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      > When you do recommend Karaf, how can I deploy my
>> app to the application server?
>> >      >      >      > Do I have to install every single bundle?
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      > As always, thanks for your help.
>> >      >      >      > Philipp
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      >
>> >      >      >      >
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