Dear John,

uh-oh...that sounds like an ominous opening!  <Grin>

Actually, the "they" I refer to is every other word processor on the
face of the planet.

I never abused/relied on the tab system as a document control
architecture.  I used it to segregate out the portions of a writing
project.  Each chapter had its own tab, various tabs had notes and
clippings from other sources, etc.  You could re-arrange the tabs and
put together a perfect book by tagging which tabs printed and which
didn't.  It was a mind blowing architecture.

I don't have problems finding client documents which are 20 years old.
I create a directory for each client.  If I don't do any billable work
for that client in 6 years, I simply delete the directory during the
next OS/machine upgrade.



On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 16:17 +0100, John B wrote:

> Dear Roland
> 
> It reminds me of that Guinness Ad on "Cold Guinness" where the barman 
> says "your the 15th person today I've told that there is no call for 
> Cold Guinness".
> 
> I remember the 1st time I saw Lotus Smart Suite, this chap had just 2 
> files - Private and Business, he opened up the private one and inside 
> were group tabs saying [+Gas], [+Electricity] etc - it thought  "of 
> course", it was like a Eureka moment.
> 
> Ask any other software user to find a current client document from 6 
> months ago let alone 10, 20 years ago!; And of course if you have a 
> client called "Fred Bloggs" you don't have to think up new file names 
> each time you send a new letter such a 
> "fred_blogs_fax_17_06_11_reply_London_office".
> 
> I am assuming the "they" you refer to, is IBM
> 
> thanks
> 
> John B
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> On 17/06/2011 15:20, Roland Hughes wrote:
> > If you visit the bug report site, you will see I have filed several bugs
> > on this issue.  They cannot implement WordPro tabs until they implement
> > WordPro windows for documents.  Right now they have taken the brain dead
> > Microsoft approach of having each document as a tab.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 14:56 +0100, John B wrote:
> >
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> Thanks - I have posted the request  below  today - I will let you know
> >> if I get a response.
> >>
> >> I note that on the new IBM Lotus Symphony Web site - this has to be the
> >> most angered and fought for request (1000's), but IBM have now disowned
> >> its own software in favour of making the new cut down 3 progs suit "not
> >> compatible", OOo used to!, but LibreOffice have taken up the challenge
> >> in as much as LO can read the files - although the original formatting
> >> is a bit hit and miss.
> >>
> >>   >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >> [wish-list]
> >>
> >> /There must be 10's of thousands of Lotus Smart Suite users who use
> >> Lotus Wordpro who cannot move (locked in) to any other software because
> >> of a brilliant internal tab filing structure within wordpro. This is
> >> where you can put standard tabs inside Group tabs.
> >>
> >> Because Libreoffice thankfully support Lotus Smart Suite documents (and
> >> IBM no longer do), you would be the natural inheritor for all these folk.
> >>
> >> At the moment I am not aware of any other software that even have tab
> >> documents within a Word processor so you would be unique.
> >>
> >> One tab can be for any amount of pages (also called a division).
> >>
> >> The beauty of tab documents is that in one file you can have all the
> >> documents for say one client, one book etc. laid out in say years +2011,
> >> +2010 ..... +1995 or chapters etc. and inside (by clicking the +) the
> >> group tab opens up and you can have inside other tabs for all that years
> >> correspondence or headings or whatever etc).
> >>
> >> Now by having them all in one file, then a document produced in say 2000
> >> is not archived or deleted as every time a new document is added the
> >> whole file is updated to the current date, so backing up by current date
> >> massively improves.
> >>
> >> I have files on current clients that go back to 1991, the "+" means that
> >> it is a "group tab" and that there are other tabs inside (and maybe more
> >> inside them) etc., Hence its an effective filing structure to handle
> >> multi documents.
> >>
> >> I have group tabs that go like this "+1990's">  "+1991">  "Contracts">
> >> (then a single tab "12/03/91"
> >>
> >> Hence, you can also go straight to a division, click on it and Print it
> >> as a separate item. You can copy&  paste, insert, you can move a tab,
> >> (like making it the 1st or last page(s) in a document.
> >>
> >> The problem now is that if a Wordpro document, fully tabbed with say 10
> >> - 1000 Tabs and by transferring it to LibreOfice it just becomes an
> >> unmanageable 10 to say 10,000 pages, with no structure.
> >>
> >> Managing large documents or many documents over a long period of time
> >> becomes achievable with Tabs (divisions)
> >>
> >> I would have thought that this would be useful in any word processor.
> >> Please consider this
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> John Brassington
> >> /
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/06/2011 14:42, Tom Davies wrote:
> >>> Hi :)
> >>> This guide might help?
> >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
> >>>
> >>> I think i would post as a normal bug but put "" at the start of the
> >>> subject-line (unless the guide has better advice!)
> >>> Regards from
> >>> Tom :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: John B<[email protected]>
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 12:20:01
> >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Feature request - area?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is there an area where Feature Requests are posted?
> >>>
> >>> John B
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