Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 13:24, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> a écrit :

> ...
> :spatial_dataset rdf:type     spatial:SpatialDataset ;
>      rdf:type     text:TextDataset ;
> ...
>
> Not sure but I think the system will create this twice.
>
> It would be better to have two declarations, one for spatial, one for
> text.  I'm not sure what happen if they share the same :directory - it
> might work, it might not.
>

So, if one want to make queries that are both textual and spatial,
having two declarations, one for spatial, one for text, sharing the same
directory, appears as the only solution .
I tested and report here.
The current assembler file:
https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/scala/jena.spatial%2Btext2.assembler.ttl
Results:

   -  spatial query works, textual query has empty result, but no message
   in log, when *calling with spatial Dataset* in call
   to DatasetFactory.assemble()
   -  spatial query works, textual query has result independant of the
   string searched, and messages in log "Failed to find the text index" , "No
   text index - no text search performed : tried context and as a text-enabled
   dataset", when *calling with textual Dataset *in call to
   DatasetFactory.assemble()

The query tested for text:
PREFIX text: <http://jena.apache.org/text#>
PREFIX rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
SELECT *
WHERE {
    ?s a <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/Garden> ;
    text:query (rdfs:label 'Gardens' ) ;
} LIMIT 11

The spatial query tested:

PREFIX spatial: <http://jena.apache.org/spatial#>
PREFIX rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
SELECT DISTINCT ?placeName ?place
WHERE {
  ?place spatial:nearby (
    45.750000 4.85 # Lyon
    1000 'km') .
  ?place rdfs:label ?placeName
  FILTER( LANG( ?placeName) = 'en' )
} LIMIT 111

Data: the 2600 dboGarden in dbPedia endpoint.



>      Andy
>
> On 16/12/2018 16:41, Jean-Marc Vanel wrote:
> > Sorry , I sent a bad link on the list, my assembler file is really this:
> >
> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/scala/jena.spatial%2Btext.assembler.ttl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 13:40, Marco Neumann <[email protected]> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> you are missing the text index in the assembler.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 12:08 PM Jean-Marc Vanel <
> [email protected]
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes indeed,
> >>> exactly with this assembler file:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/scala/jena.spatial.assembler.ttl
> >>>
> >>> And, when the Jena based application is started with this same
> assembler
> >>> file, the spatial queries work , as said above in this thread.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 12:18, Marco Neumann <[email protected]>
> a
> >>> écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> did you create the text index with jena.textindexer
> >>>> --desc=/<path>/config.ttl?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 8:48 AM Jean-Marc Vanel <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I fixed a stupid error in text index URI, resulting from pasting, in
> >>> new
> >>>>> file jena.spatial+text.assembler.ttl:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/scala/jena.spatial%2Btext.assembler.ttl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, it reads:
> >>>>> :spatial_dataset rdf:type     spatial:SpatialDataset ;
> >>>>>      rdf:type     text:TextDataset ;
> >>>>>      spatial:dataset   <#dataset> ;
> >>>>>      spatial:index     <#indexLucene> ;
> >>>>>      text:dataset   <#dataset> ;
> >>>>>      text:index    * <#indexLuceneText>* ;
> >>>>>      .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But still it says "Failed to find the text index" .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 09:34, Jean-Marc Vanel <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>> a
> >>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> So I tried a new  file jena.spatial+text.assembler.ttl with
> >> separate
> >>>>>> Lucene indices for spatial and text:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/scala/jena.spatial%2Btext.assembler.ttl
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It defines a Dataset with both Dataset types and both Lucene
> >> indices:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> :spatial_dataset rdf:type     spatial:SpatialDataset ;
> >>>>>>      rdf:type     text:TextDataset ;
> >>>>>>      spatial:dataset   <#dataset> ;
> >>>>>>      spatial:index     <#indexLucene> ;
> >>>>>>      text:dataset   <#dataset> ;
> >>>>>>      text:index     <#indexLucene> ;
> >>>>>>      .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alas , when querying , it says "Failed to find the text index" :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> WARN  org.apache.jena.query.text.TextQueryPF - Failed to find the
> >>> text
> >>>>>> index : tried context and as a text-enabled dataset
> >>>>>> WARN  org.apache.jena.query.text.TextQueryPF - No text index - no
> >>> text
> >>>>>> search performed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is it because rdf:type spatial:SpatialDataset is asserted first in
> >>>>>> assembler file?
> >>>>>> So, defining a hybrid Dataset does not work anymore by TTL
> >>>> specification
> >>>>>> than by JVM code specification.
> >>>>>> I definitely need more experts' advice .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le sam. 15 déc. 2018 à 21:10, ajs6f <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Marco Neumann <
> >>> [email protected]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Question*: does that make sense to have a unique Lucene index
> >>> for
> >>>>>>> text and
> >>>>>>>>> space ?
> >>>>>>>>> It is possible at all? If yes, is it good in terms of disk
> >> space
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> performance?
> >>>>>>>>> Like this:
> >>>>>>>>> <#indexLucene> a text:TextIndexLucene ;
> >>>>>>>>>                a spatial:SpatialIndexLucene ;
> >>>>>>>>>                # etc ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm sure that would be ideal for many cases, but I'm not at all
> >> sure
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> the same index can answer queries of both kinds. Perhaps we can
> >>>> combine
> >>>>>>> fields from both, but are the relationships between tuple and
> >> index
> >>>>> record
> >>>>>>> the same in both cases?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Otherwise, I know we had a conversation at some point in the past
> >> on
> >>>> one
> >>>>>>> of the lists about trying to factor out commonalities between
> >>>>> jena-spatial
> >>>>>>> and jena-text, but it didn't go very far at that time and I don't
> >>> know
> >>>>> what
> >>>>>>> the intervening years have done to make it more or less feasible.
> >>>> There
> >>>>>>> have been many changes to jena-text in that time and the new
> >> spatial
> >>>>> module
> >>>>>>> is a whole new story. I'd put a link here but searching
> >>>>> lists.apache.org
> >>>>>>> hasn't brought it up for me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ajs6f
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.semantic-forms.cc:9111/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me#subject
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.semantic-forms.cc:9111/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me#subject
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>> Twitter: @jmvanel , @jmvanel_fr ; chat: irc://
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Marco Neumann
> >>>> KONA
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >>> <
> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Marco Neumann
> >> KONA
> >>
> >
> >
>


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